• Allah@lemmy.worldOP
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    and what if government tomorrow or (maybe far future) announced that they will be announcing fines for people who didn’t vote in order to maximize participation, would you agree with that decision?

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      You mean, as already happens in Australia and Belgium and maybe a few other places.

      Seems fair to me. Democracy relies on participation. To not vote is effectively to vote against democracy. Fair enough, but that’s a dangerous road to go down. I think there should be a small price to pay for it.

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        23 hours ago

        Democracy relies on participation

        You don’t exist in a democratic society. So what exactly do you want people to participate in?

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          No, the onus is first on you first to explain why “we don’t exist in a democratic society” and above all what is your brilliant plan for making things better. If all you can do is whine about why it’s all useless while you undermine the system by opting out of it, then frankly I’m not interested in anything you have to say.

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            No, the onus is first on you first to explain why “we don’t exist in a democratic society”

            Did you vote FOR the ongoing genocide the liberal status quo is funding in Palestine as we speak, genius? Were you ever given the chance, hmm?

            Yes or no?

            If no, where is your “public power?” Where is the democratic power you should have if you actually existed in a democratic society?

            To a non-brainwashed person, this would be perfectly obvious. But it’s not obvious to YOU.

            above all what is your brilliant plan for making things better.

            Now you are demanding solutions to a problem you insist do not exist. A bit incoherent, don’t you think?

            while you undermine the system by opting out of it

            ROFLMAO!

            Good job demonstrating that you don’t have the foggiest understanding of the system you are defending.

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      This is the dumb way to go about incentivizing people to vote.

      Make voting part of doing your taxes. Everyone is already verified through the IRS, piggyback off that system. Whatever amount you had in your head as a fine, make it a tax credit if they compete the voting portion of the tax paperwork.

      People who don’t do taxes can vote by mail still and can still receive the money for voting. No more stupid fucking voting booths.