Nazis won’t be part of the government after this result.
The conservatives have stated before the election that they won’t form a coalition with the far right AfD, the green party or the left party.
But with this result, they have a majority with the social democrats alone.
This will be a stable, centrist, boring government, typically German. Too little progress, but no catastrophe, and no threat to EU democracy, nor to international obligations or support for Ukraine. Neither party are Putin bootlickers either.
In the opposition, the greens and the left combined have more seats than the AfD.
And 84% turnout is the highest since 1987!!!
Nazis won’t be part of the government after this result
That’s not what I said. What I said is that I find it deplorable that a fifth of the population of Germany - yes, THAT GERMANY - is happily eating the cold vomit their country puked on the world 85 years ago.
A 20% of 84% eligible voters, or about 17% eligible voters, or about 15% of the population.
Keep in mind that if the turnout had been like the US2024’s 64%, that result could have been anywhere between 0% and 26%, depending on who decided not to vote.
That’s after all the manipulation from Musk and Russia. A lot of those people would act as surprised and betrayed as some in the US have over the past month. For starters, the AfD co-leader, an anti-immigrant pro-Nazi eurosceptic anti-democratic fascist Musky party that’s pushing traditional family values… has herself an immigrant same-sex partner with whom she’s raising two kids. Makes me think of a Serena Waterford case. 🤦
A 20% of 84% eligible voters, or about 17% eligible voters, or about 15% of the population.
This is not reassuring.
15% of a population being Nazis is not reassuring in any country. But in Germany, the home of Nazism, that was utterly destroyed by Nazism, it’s even scarier.
It’s been somewhat of a theme in countries that endured USSR influence, to run a “commie scare” and fall straight into the arms of a neo-lib alt-right.
I wasn’t trying to refute anything you said, just adding context.
The election was a warning, but the demonstrations before it gave me hope, and the result shows that Germany’s political system is resilient even against 20% Nazis.
(I personally believe that 20% Nazis in Germany is almost a constant. It certainly hasn’t changed much in the 40 years I’ve been alive.)
Germany’s political system is resilient even against 20% Nazis.
…for now.
The problem is, like you said, Germany will form a bland unappealing, reasonable coalition government that won’t rock the boat, pushing more dissatisfied voters into the arms of the AfD. And one day, the extremists will win and then it’ll be game over.
Nazis won’t be part of the government after this result. The conservatives have stated before the election that they won’t form a coalition with the far right AfD, the green party or the left party. But with this result, they have a majority with the social democrats alone.
This will be a stable, centrist, boring government, typically German. Too little progress, but no catastrophe, and no threat to EU democracy, nor to international obligations or support for Ukraine. Neither party are Putin bootlickers either.
In the opposition, the greens and the left combined have more seats than the AfD. And 84% turnout is the highest since 1987!!!
That’s not what I said. What I said is that I find it deplorable that a fifth of the population of Germany - yes, THAT GERMANY - is happily eating the cold vomit their country puked on the world 85 years ago.
A 20% of 84% eligible voters, or about 17% eligible voters, or about 15% of the population.
Keep in mind that if the turnout had been like the US2024’s 64%, that result could have been anywhere between 0% and 26%, depending on who decided not to vote.
That’s after all the manipulation from Musk and Russia. A lot of those people would act as surprised and betrayed as some in the US have over the past month. For starters, the AfD co-leader, an anti-immigrant pro-Nazi eurosceptic anti-democratic fascist Musky party that’s pushing traditional family values… has herself an immigrant same-sex partner with whom she’s raising two kids. Makes me think of a Serena Waterford case. 🤦
This is not reassuring.
15% of a population being Nazis is not reassuring in any country. But in Germany, the home of Nazism, that was utterly destroyed by Nazism, it’s even scarier.
It gets more interesting with a map of the votes:
East Germany, vs. West Germany.
It’s been somewhat of a theme in countries that endured USSR influence, to run a “commie scare” and fall straight into the arms of a neo-lib alt-right.
Pretty sure AfD’s Alice Weidel additionally doesn’t even live in Germany but in Switzerland.
I wasn’t trying to refute anything you said, just adding context.
The election was a warning, but the demonstrations before it gave me hope, and the result shows that Germany’s political system is resilient even against 20% Nazis.
(I personally believe that 20% Nazis in Germany is almost a constant. It certainly hasn’t changed much in the 40 years I’ve been alive.)
…for now.
The problem is, like you said, Germany will form a bland unappealing, reasonable coalition government that won’t rock the boat, pushing more dissatisfied voters into the arms of the AfD. And one day, the extremists will win and then it’ll be game over.
But for now yes, Germany is safe.
If CDU and AFD won’t coalesce but CDU will look to AFD to pass legislation, where does that leave us?