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PugJesus@lemmy.worldM to A Comm for Historymemes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

So help me, find me a non-imperialist country or I'll 'civilize' every last one of these hostages!

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So help me, find me a non-imperialist country or I'll 'civilize' every last one of these hostages!

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PugJesus@lemmy.worldM to A Comm for Historymemes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago
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    I don’t think Korea has ever been imperial, they’ve always been too busy not being conquered

    • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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      Korea had the longest unbroken chain of slavery of any society in human history, spanning over 1500 years.

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        How does slavery make a nation an empire?

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          In spirit I suppose. But they have been an empire for a while: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Empire

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      Korean Empire.

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        Not really sure that 13 years with no imperial ambitions counts as an empire. Unless the words are all that counts, I’m which case the US isn’t an empire

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          Are you trying to No True Scotsman the Korean Empire? They’re on the list! They even lasted longer (by 1 year) than Nazi Germany did as an empire!

          Anyway I’d encourage you to look at the list. There have been many empires in history. You don’t have to be one of the “great empires” (such as the Kushite Empire) to be on the list.

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            Whelp, there’s Godwin’s law

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              You have run out of substantive things to say. Fair enough!

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      I’d instinctively put Vietnam in that same bag.

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        I did think about Vietnam, but I think they were pretty aggressive towards Cambodia during and after their war of independence. I’m also not sure how much you want to include the Dai Viet as part of the current state or where you would rate it’s imperial-ness

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