• andypiper@lemmy.worldOP
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    Search exists. I’m not sure downvotes make sense in the context of a microblogging app, but YMMV. There’s a lot of things to work on, for sure.

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      No, I’m not saying he depriortized it. The problem is he won’t implement it.

      By search I mean I should be able to search for a keyword or URL on all instances. There is no support for this. And, again, the issue is not technical. Its Eugene blocking it because he personally does not want the feature

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        won’t implement it.

        “not sure downvotes make sense” -> it might not be a good fit for what the app is -> so maybe it would not make sense to implement.

        I should be able to search for a keyword or URL on all instances

        We’re working on this. It’s part of Fediscovery. Optional opt-in discovery across instances, if a user wants their content to be discoverable across instances.

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            I don’t know, I was not involved if that was said at some time, but now, we have search, so I don’t know what to tell you.

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              O rly?

              Search for a URL to a popular news article. It will not return all the toots that include that URL.

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                If the user didn’t make their posts as discoverable, then no, they will not be returned in a search. The search is opt-in. It is not ideal, but it is a way to respect user privacy. I was making the point that search exists now, even if it had previously been rejected as a feature to implement, so it is not impossible for folks to change their opinions on including features.

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                  That basically defeats the whole purpose of the platform

                  One time I saw a fire truck drive by and I searched twitter for “fire” and the city name. That’s the day I fell in love with Twitter. I only use it for searching for people talking about stuff.

                  If search doesn’t work, I have no use for it.

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          Doesn’t matter what the devs want. The users requested it, the devs should implement it. Instead Eugene just said “no”

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            That’s a strange take… But even if that logic follows, it’s pretty disingenuous to suggest that’s what ALL users want, and Eugene is the sole opposition. You and I may want global search, but lots of Mastodon users actively loathe the idea.

            Personally I think it’d be a better platform for it, but I get why there are folks who don’t like the idea. I also wish they’d implement quoting people, but again, I understand why some folks don’t like that idea. Downvotes don’t really make sense on microblogging to me.

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                Oh neat!! I thought that idea had been shot down, that’s cool to hear

                Thanks for letting me know :) Hope you have a lovely day

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              There’s a ton on people who want it. Its not just a few.

              And if that’s the case, implement it and let instance admins or users themselves be able to turn it off.

              But don’t pull a reddit and just ignore users.

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                Yes, and my impression is that there are also a ton of people who very much don’t want to be indexed or findable through inorganic means

                I don’t disagree about implementing it and letting instances decide, but they’ve opted for a different compromise of letting people opt in. Having opt in vs opt out be an instance option would be nice, but open source projects aren’t always gonna align 1000% with the priorities that you have personally, unless it’s personally your project

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            This has to be one of the funniest takes I’ve ever seen, esp considering the nature of the project and the devs who work on it.

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        search for a keyword or URL on all instances.

        1. Want search on all instances
        2. Code that up with the one site requesting search results from another; what, as an oob cancelmoose but a search?
        3. Oh crap. We smurfed ourselves
        4. Code removal of DoS by search amplification
        5. Go to 1
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        Search on Mastodon is annoyingly restrictive, but you’re never getting “full search across all instances”. Remote search just isn’t a thing.

        Even fucking Google is local.

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        He is stepping away from the CEO role to focus on the product. That means you are not getting anything he doesn’t want, if anything he has more control over the functionality of Mastodon.

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          I do not think that is a factual representation of the team dynamics, but of course, you are free to choose that interpretation.

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            Regardless of the team dynamics, what I was getting at is simply that a CEO runs the company, and is generally not involved in minor decisions. But he is moving into a product strategy role, one that by definition is focused on what the product (mastodon) does.