In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

        • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          You do know that PT cleary mentions who sponsors them (& PG stole funds & people from PT)<br> Honestly every single TechLore personnel are pretty much liars & thieves & shills(that Aragon guy was the one who stole money)

          • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
            1·
            2 days ago

            PG stole funds

            Following this, BurungHantu made false accusations about Jonah stealing donations from the project. BurungHantu had over a year since the alleged incident occurred, and yet he never made anyone aware of it until after the Privacy Guides migration. BurungHantu has been repeatedly asked for proof and to comment on the reason for his silence by the team and the community, and has not done so.

            From https://www.privacyguides.org/en/about/privacytools/

            people from PT

            the pt people voluntarily and unanimously moved to pg

            • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
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              1 day ago

              Suuuuuure cuz You said so, The foundations of PG were built on a lie & PT still has the updated info

              • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
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                1 day ago

                The foundations of PG were built on a lie & PT still has the updated info

                Suuuuuure cuz You said so

                I linked many sources, where are yours? There’s no lies here, Burung was absent from github, the reddit and all the chats for multiple years and now wants them back to delete all the evidence.

                PT still has the updated info

                Like NordVPN and Surfshark? The same thing PrivacyTools itself warned about promoting in their blog that’s now deleted?

        • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 days ago

          Except PrivacyGuides literally steals (including money) from PrivacyTools & PrivacyTools have made it clear to mark something as promotional

          • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
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            2 days ago

            Except PrivacyGuides literally steals (including money)

            False.

            PrivacyTools have made it clear to mark something as promotional

            No they absolutely do not, stop being a shill

            From https://www.privacytools.io/donate

            The only sponsorship of PrivacyTools.io so far is the service “Redact.dev” click here to view the example. To avoid confusion, these entries will be clearly marked as a sponsored entry.

            I will make this very clear: No tool or service will be added here just because an affiliate program is offered.

            Clearly false when the VPN page lists NordVPN as the best pick, followed by Surfshark and an and for Incogni at the bottom of the page.

        • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          Boy I guess PT is not allowed to make money to fund their website It’s way better than leaching from PT & TechLore fans

        • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
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          2 days ago

          tech bro recommendations like Brave browser

          I’m never gonna recommend librewolf/mullvad browser/whatever is popular these days to a coworker, even if I daily drive them. Do you know what I did suggest to them, and they actually switched to it from chrome? Brave.

          It’s not the best, it’s not the most powerful, but being able to say “it’s chrome but without ads” is a major selling point, especially with non tech savy people who don’t want their cookies cleared on every restart

          • sudoer777@lemmy.ml
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            2 days ago

            Nowadays I would recommend Zen Browser + uBO over Brave which has a nice user-friendly UI and supposedly disables telemetry. Before Zen Browser, disabling the crap Brave comes with takes a similar amount of effort as tweaking Librewolf’s aggressive privacy settings, but one of them is actually privacy focused and the other is run by a shady ad crypto company with a shady news feed that keeps pushing Fox News and a homophobic CEO. For mobile there’s Cromite.