• jimmy90@lemmy.world
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    the democrats bravely tried to beat trump at the last election anyway they could

    you’ve been campaigning against them the whole time and helped trump get elected

    i guess that doesn’t make you a coward, not sure what it does make you though

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      Yeah, bravely tried to beat Trump by ignoring their constituents, handwaving a genocide, kowtowing to corporate donors and trying to appeal to moderate Republicans who have been told non-stop for the past 40 years that Democrats are evil and out to destroy the country.

      When your constituents want change and you campaign on keeping things the same, that’s a colossal failure of party leadership, and it shouldn’t be surprising that your voters will become disillusioned and stay home.

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      Since you don’t know what it takes to win elections, keep it to yourself.

      You have to decide between whatever brain-rot logic around electoralism has brought you to the place where you are and winning elections. You don’t get to have both.

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        that’s right between campaigning against the democrats and campaigning against trump you chose the democrats and helped trump win

        it must have been such a hard choice between project 2025 and not-fascists

        you must have been huffing so much putin propaganda you could barely see

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          Which would you rather have?

          Would you like the Democrat to have won the election, or do you want to be “correct” in your approach to politics?

          You don’t get to have both.

          And to be clear: You aren’t actually arguing with me. Its the 6 million Democrats who showed up for Biden, but who failed to be convinced by this approach to rhetoric.

          So it all comes back to you. I made my case ad-naseum, begging Democrats to change their rhetoric, their approach to electoralism, because it was incredibly clear that the manner in which Democrats were campaigning and approaching the election would lose. People with a mental disorder interpret that argument as an attack on the Democratic candidate.

          It would be great if I was wrong; if it was fine for Harris to have run, effectively as a rightwing canddiate, and have won the election. But she didn’t win the election. I wasn’t wrong in my analysis, before, during, and after, that the manner in which Harris was campaigning (and Biden before her) was going to lose the election.

          If you take that as me making an argument against Harris, or for Trump, you should seek help with your mind.

          It all comes down to you and a choice you still have available to you: Are you willing to change your mind such that we can get Democrats to win elections, or, are you more heavily invested in a deluded approach to electoralism, where you get to claim a form of psychological correctness, but can’t win elections?

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            at least you admit you were campaigning against the democrats the whole time

            you wanted trump sooo badly

            as a socialist did you miss those great authoritarian times you get with trump and hamas

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              if these are the things you think, you are broken.

              You are doing the job a of defeating the Democrats before there is even an election.

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                i’m fine, but you don’t realize you enabled trump’s fascism and support fascism in the middle east

                you’re still trying to destroy the democrats due to your magical socialist ideology

                the democrats are alive and well and voters will flock to them now they realize you sold them fundamentalist lies that caused incredible damage to their country

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                  If you conducted yourself this way during the campaign, and I think we can only assume you did, you played directly into the Republicans strategy and cost the US it’s democracy.