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Yawn. Signal is still the easiest option to setup and perfectly fine opsec for the majority of people. For a centralized service, it is both open source and has a long history of malicious compliance with court orders. On top of that, it’s maintained by a nonprofit foundation, the best possible steward for a centralized service.
If you’re an activist or engaged in activism, use SimpleX or something similar. If you’re just trying to chat with your aunt and don’t want prying eyes seeing what you chat about, Signal is sufficient.
What’s wrong with using signal as an activist? Lots of folks use it.
Or are you saying that activists may be targeted by governments using attacks that target signal’s ui?
I’m saying that if who you talk to matters for your threat model just as much as what you say, you should pick a platform that’s more anonymous. Signal knows the IP addresses of where your messages go, and that might be enough to uncover who is talking to whom. Certain governments might find that enough cause to abuse someone they don’t like.
Signal says that you can use a VPN to hide that information even from them, but IMO, it’s better if nobody has it in the first place, if it can be avoided.
It’s centralised, bad: We know!
But how many people have YOU rescued from WhatsApp, anti-libre software?
Blah blah blah. Signal is the best consumer-grade encryption messenger out there. If you think you’re going to get kidnapped and have your device stolen and be compelled to open it and don’t have another PIN on your Signal, etc., ad nauseum, rinsus washus repitus, then you’re just crying in the rain.
Get another cause. There are so many with much more important significance than this silly-assed, tired argument.
The vast majority of people can’t even be bothered to delete WhatsApp for security concerns.
Whining about how signal isn’t running off a Linux virtual machine that emulates a 1972 Turkish missile console looks like clown shit to damn near everyone and probably close to 80% of the people that have even cared enough to download signal in the first place.
Valid concerns and critiques are valid but, like, its open source dog. Just make it better. Make a federated version or whatever he wants, the source code is right there in the app.
This guy sounds like one of those dudes that thinks something is only good if nobody knows how to use it and success is measured in how widely it’s rejected by consumers
I got my girlfriend on signal, but she’s a Mexican citizen. That entire country runs on WhatsApp. It would be like pulling teeth to make her understand why WhatsApp is bad.
I told her I can’t use it, so we compromised.
Thats what I’m saying! Maybe once there are entire countries running on signal you can be the snooty “my contacts in my phone can see me on signal” critic that nobody cares about or listens to
Right now meta has access to every message sent in Mexico and this guy is trying to convince people not to use signal because it “isn’t secure” smh
I’m guessing that JWZ isn’t a fan based on the goatse image, lol
JWZ has had nothing but arrogant takes on a lot of things over the
yearsdecades. Mostly shitting on his fellow coders when xscreensaver really isn’t any better. He is the embodiment of FOSS meritocracy-fueled sociopathy.Signal is OK as a beginner privacy tool. Like with all gateway drugs or gateway animes or gateway videogames, you gotta start somewhere.
But it does is certainly a platform at-risk. Storage is US-centered, connectivity can be cut at any moment, and it’s quite centralized to the point of forbidding 3p clients from interacting with the main Signal “network”.
I come from the 90s. XMPP / Jabber is so much better.
I don’t have a phone number.
Even my phone itself is set up as a tablet and cannot make or receive calls or texts.
No signal for me!
There are ways to game that. Use Google voice or a free voip line to do the initial setup, then just use the app and delete the voip.
It’s risky since once the voip is done, that line will be wiped, but then you’re pretty much a signal ghost.
What do you use your phone for? Do you have a separate phone for calls? Bit confused. :D
What are calls?
FUCKING LOL that Goatse signal
