I’m just going through my past history, and looking for anything where the subject is “*Permanently Deleted*” and where the Modlog for that community shows nothing.
- (Deleted within the hour) https://lemmy.ml/post/28333996, modlog
- (Deleted 3 days ago) https://lemmy.ml/post/28206502/17786644, modlog
- (Deleted 10 days ago) https://lemmy.ml/post/27878131/17617304, modlog
- (Deleted 13 days ago) https://lemmy.ml/post/27745076/17556469, modlog
None of these appear in the modlog of their respective communities.
I’ve been told before in an earlier comment chain that this might be due to the post user being permanently deleted.
Is there any way I can verify this as an end-user? Once the post is gone, I can’t see the username of who posted it.
It’s just a bit of a small hole in the transparency of Lemmy’s fantastic moderation
“Permanently deleted” normally means the poster has removed their account and content. In this case, your comment hasn’t been removed, but the post you were replying to is gone, because the person who made the post deleted their account. It reads permanently deleted, because that’s now the post title in the database
I had a look, seems like for the fedimemes post the poster got banned, and probably their post removed:
They likely deleted their account after getting banned
That makes sense, but I’m just wondering if there’s any way for an end-user such as myself can easily see this (e.g. modlog, userbanlog, or otherwise) to verify.
From my perspective, I hope you can understand how bewildering it is to have this record gap.
There is no modlog, because there were no mod actions.
There was a mod action: lemmy.ml instance banned that account. It still exists on LW: https://lemmy.world/u/cm0002
I understand, but is there no userbanlog to check as well, where a deleted post is tied to a banned user?
That’s what I’m saying. The post is gone because the user deleted their account. Everything about that account is gone. I believe it works that way due to European laws on the right to be forgotten.
Ah I see, so there never will be a userbanlog implemented due to GDPR?
Two separate things.
User bans already appear in the modlogs.
Self deleted accounts don’t appear in anything, because they are truly erased.
In this very specific case, you would need to check your account profile from another instance (the way I did it, from my instance) to see those posts that would still exist but not on lemmy.ml as they’ve been banned.
They still posted 6 hours ago: https://lemmy.world/u/cm0002
That image doesn’t show “permanently deleted”. Neither the comment in the screenshot nor the post the comment was attached to have been deleted. That appears to be a screenshot of a discussion about this issue, rather than an occurrence of it.
Ah indeed, seems to be a different case than the “permanently deleted”
it’s also the case for deletions without account deletions, but iirc there is some delay before it gets rewritten in the db to allow the user to undelete it for a bit of time.