You don’t care if the game lives up to other people’s different standards of a what a fun game is, but your represent your own standards of what a fun game is as objective, and then say that because FO4 meets those standards, its fine actually, and also all the other people with other standards should just shut up about them.
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We could just ditch the entire framing of discussing FO4 as an RPG, and just say sure, it isn’t an RPG, its an open world looter shooter with crafting and base building and a story.
Problem there is, for me at least… I don’t find the story, the characters, the dialogue, etc, very good, at all.
I don’t find the shooting very good, what with the nonsense auto scaling, and unsophisticated combat AI.
Crafting, on its own, is a good subsystem of a game, but when combined with how the rest of the game works, it becomes a very tedious, mandatory chore.
Base building, on its own, is a decent subsystem of a game… but when combined with the rest of how the game works, … well, its either a chore to get through the bare minimum to advance the plot, the story… or, it isn’t comprehensive and well integrated enough into the main design of the game, such that the entire game itself could reach its full potential of meaningfully being a core mechanic of the whole game world and story, as I outlined in my other post.
The uh, I think its called ‘Expanded Settlements’ mod, or some such? It gets a lot closer to doing that latter thing, though I may be using the wrong name, its been a while since I last played FO4… due to the, you know, lack of fun I was having.
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In summary… I am happy you find FO4 fun, and I hope you can respect that I don’t find it to be fun, and that different people have different standards for fun, and just as its ok for you to like something I don’t, its ok for me to not like something you do.
If you don’t wanna talk about this topic… maybe don’t talk about this topic?
But its kinda bs to just try to say ‘actually no one is allowed to criticize this or have a different opinion than me,’… and then also call anyone who disagrees with you a gatekeeper… when that is what you are doing, you are gatekeeping the entire discussion itself.
adjusts pink glasses
Mhm, yep, very funny joke.
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You don’t care if the game lives up to other people’s different standards of a what a fun game is, but your represent your own standards of what a fun game is as objective, and then say that because FO4 meets those standards, its fine actually, and also all the other people with other standards should just shut up about them.
…
We could just ditch the entire framing of discussing FO4 as an RPG, and just say sure, it isn’t an RPG, its an open world looter shooter with crafting and base building and a story.
Problem there is, for me at least… I don’t find the story, the characters, the dialogue, etc, very good, at all.
I don’t find the shooting very good, what with the nonsense auto scaling, and unsophisticated combat AI.
Crafting, on its own, is a good subsystem of a game, but when combined with how the rest of the game works, it becomes a very tedious, mandatory chore.
Base building, on its own, is a decent subsystem of a game… but when combined with the rest of how the game works, … well, its either a chore to get through the bare minimum to advance the plot, the story… or, it isn’t comprehensive and well integrated enough into the main design of the game, such that the entire game itself could reach its full potential of meaningfully being a core mechanic of the whole game world and story, as I outlined in my other post.
The uh, I think its called ‘Expanded Settlements’ mod, or some such? It gets a lot closer to doing that latter thing, though I may be using the wrong name, its been a while since I last played FO4… due to the, you know, lack of fun I was having.
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In summary… I am happy you find FO4 fun, and I hope you can respect that I don’t find it to be fun, and that different people have different standards for fun, and just as its ok for you to like something I don’t, its ok for me to not like something you do.
If you don’t wanna talk about this topic… maybe don’t talk about this topic?
But its kinda bs to just try to say ‘actually no one is allowed to criticize this or have a different opinion than me,’… and then also call anyone who disagrees with you a gatekeeper… when that is what you are doing, you are gatekeeping the entire discussion itself.
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As a final point, FO4 ain’t got Caravan.
I should have just led with that, really.