You realize every other time it rains in NYC, they dump raw sewage into the ocean and there’s an uptick in people who get sick (swimmers) as a result?
Almost every major city in the US has this problem.
So I must disagree. I don’t think it would be worse than our current situation.
Also, we currently fertilize food crops with cow manure, which also carries pathogens. These pathogens could be also eliminated by composting too, but I don’t think anyone does this. This is usually the cause of e-coli and salmonia outbreaks in the US.
Perhaps I’m just not understanding you, but how does composting treated sewage fix the problem of dumping raw sewage into the water before it ever reaches the treatment plant?
The reason for the dumping of raw sewage is because these cities have older infrastructure which combines wastewater and storm water collection into one system. Heavy rains can increase the flow rate in such systems by as much as ten times their usual rate, which is far too much for treatment plants to handle without massively oversizing them and it also could make them lose the microbiology that treats the wastewater for them. Diverting this sewage directly into the receiving waters actually prevents even worse public health problems from occurring.
Another problem with what you are proposing is that, while composting can be good enough to get rid of pathogens, it’s not good enough to remove things like pharmaceuticals and heavy metals. Incineration would be a more effective solution, but it requires even higher upfront costs.
People who say we need petro chemicals for modern agriculture need to understand this
The problem is that human feces carries a lot of human pathogens.
That’s why you compost it before use. Its own heat kills those pathogens with time.
I think North Korea does this with less than optimal results.
In don’t think North Korea does anything optimally lol
If everyone would be diligent to compost it correctly, it would work. You couldn’t ensure that on a large scale.
If it was State run, of course you could.
You’re probably right. I don’t think the state would take it on, though. One mistake, and you have deadly consequences and people suing for justice.
You realize every other time it rains in NYC, they dump raw sewage into the ocean and there’s an uptick in people who get sick (swimmers) as a result?
Almost every major city in the US has this problem.
So I must disagree. I don’t think it would be worse than our current situation.
Also, we currently fertilize food crops with cow manure, which also carries pathogens. These pathogens could be also eliminated by composting too, but I don’t think anyone does this. This is usually the cause of e-coli and salmonia outbreaks in the US.
What I’m proposing is safer than the status quo
Perhaps I’m just not understanding you, but how does composting treated sewage fix the problem of dumping raw sewage into the water before it ever reaches the treatment plant?
The reason for the dumping of raw sewage is because these cities have older infrastructure which combines wastewater and storm water collection into one system. Heavy rains can increase the flow rate in such systems by as much as ten times their usual rate, which is far too much for treatment plants to handle without massively oversizing them and it also could make them lose the microbiology that treats the wastewater for them. Diverting this sewage directly into the receiving waters actually prevents even worse public health problems from occurring.
Another problem with what you are proposing is that, while composting can be good enough to get rid of pathogens, it’s not good enough to remove things like pharmaceuticals and heavy metals. Incineration would be a more effective solution, but it requires even higher upfront costs.
If we don’t put human waste into water, we don’t have this problem. Is that not clear?
Safer, maybe. But it’s crappy work.
I’ll leave…
That is, of course, the only way to coordinate anything.
So, what you’re saying, is that they don’t understand shit.
One could wonder why modern agriculture systems don’t use free human waste
Because we don’t care about the negative externalities of using fossil fuels.
Corporations don’t care about harming people