That is 💯% exhaustion, readily attainable by anyone but requires much effort:-)

Then get to work!

I think you meant to say wiser? (Or was it wizened? wizardacious perhaps? 🤪)

Edit: maybe… wizardlicious?

There is zero possibility of this ending badly…

The users here are definitely a higher quality than Reddit.

Or much lower, depending on where you go. Your instance is defederated from ~95% of the worst of the bad faith tankie posts though, so your recent experience is a success story that blocking such works to help people enjoy themselves here!

In contrast, I almost left the Threadiverse myself, after being trolled in both Hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml (again, both of which slrpnk.net is defederated from) by making innocuous comments (I thought) yet receiving spam replies for WEEKS and WEEKS afterwards. Tbf that is kinda the entire purpose of [email protected] - to dunk on lib takes (or even ones not leftist enough) - but a new person (me!) wouldn’t know that by arriving at a random post by browsing All, which doesn’t show the sidebar text anywhere before you have a chance to reply in a comment. I would rather not use social media entirely than have to constantly put up with such.

So instead I switched instances, getting rid of lemmygrad.ml, then petitioned the new one to defederate from Hexbear.net, which was successful, then switched to PieFed which allows me to block all users from any instance I choose without requiring admin support, and thereby blocked lemmy.ml. I managed to get rid of the entire Big Three in my feed! And yes it does make experiencing the Threadiverse much better 😊.

I think you just described the genesis of Hexbear:-D.

“Everything the other side does is wrong, while my own side is incapable of doing wrong.” While somehow at the same time, “bOtH sIdEs SaMe”. It sounds tribal to me… yet what do I know 🤔.

I have noticed how they often use identical tactics to the Alt-Right movement in the USA, as described masterfully in Innuendo Studios’ The Alt Right Playbook. As such, I’ve started thinking of tankies as a kind of Alt-Left, where facts matter little to none and instead feelings are supreme - though exclusively theirs, while yours count for little (although ironically not none, bc cruelty is the point).

And since algorithms that foster “engagement” tend to make this argumentation style more prevalent, it is becoming more prominent all over the world.

Sadly, it’s fairly prominent in Lemmy as well, though tbf, we who came here from Reddit joined their space, not the other way around. This is why supporting independent development of software such as PieFed and Mbin is so crucial, bc otherwise authoritarianism seeps into everything. E.g. Lemmy has a modlog but no modmail, no notification sent to inform the recipient of a moderation action, no ability to enquire or dispute it even if you somehow find out about it - bc the modlog simply says it was done by a “mod” - and therefore Lemmy is actually somehow more authoritian than Reddit itself was??? (Caveat: admins have near total freedom, at the cost of potentially great efforts required to modify the codebase, and mods have elevated privileges as well, but for the end user… it is much the same, at least with regard to a specific community - they can take what it offers, or else leave).

What makes the Threadiverse fantastic and worth visiting is its userbase. Highly ironically then, what makes the Threadiverse toxic AF is its userbase. 🙃 (So many people over on r/RedditAlternatives saying how they could not tolerate it…) Thus, blocking it is then, with people who use such bad faith arguments chief among my own prioritization for such. (Btw it’s not really possible to fully block all users from a specific instance on Lemmy - that feature would have far better been named as a “community mute” imho - unless you use the Sync or Connect app, switch to PieFed, or delve into making Ublock filters or creating your own instance to defederate them, none of them particularly easy to do, for a mainstream non-technical normie, who might otherwise be a fantastic content creator if the Threadiverse hadn’t decided to run them off with its high level of toxicity.)

Why is it always that guy!?:-P

Isn’t ActivityPub extremely network intensive though? If all you wanted was a single user subscribing to a handful of communities then Lemmy would be inexpensive but to pull from a lot of communities I thought people have said that it can cost a bit of money, time, etc. Also defending against attacks such as CSAM.

Maybe make a distinction then between running a “tiny personal instance with only a few niche community subscriptions” vs. a small instance, either with multiple users or even just one person subscribing to many communities, if that cost would start to become more prohibitive?

Sadly no time lately:-(

Agreed, agreed, and agreed.:-)

For the longest time there was no app for Mbin, which some people seem to deem necessary (I have no idea why? Firefox is an “app”:-). There is now Interstellar for it, but it lost momentum and not many use it (Mbin I mean, though surely even only a subset of Mbin users also use Interstellar).

I for one have no need of Mastodon, and don’t really like the web UI of Mbin (even though moving to the Threadiverse from Reddit, my first instance was Kbin.social). I much prefer PieFed:-).

PieFed is already aware and makes available the complete list of where all the cross-posts are, but if the authors of such could be listed out specifically (without needing to click to see), it may help encourage posting more often?

Mbin does this already.

Yes and moreover, feeds work at the community level, not individual posts. Which is a step in the right direction but you may want finer-grain control. Filters may offer more what you are looking for in that case.

I did not mention previously but PieFed also allows you to block all users from a user-specified instance, without requiring admin approval to perform full defederation. It is not perfect but it is very good and e.g. I use it to block Lemmy.ml, which saves me a lot of headaches as most of the worst, most argumentative and unfriendly (and batshit insane) comments I’ve seen come from there. Lemmy’s instance filter is horribly misnamed - it would have much better been called a community muting, as it blocks communities from that insurance but the users remain free to troll you in communities located in other instances, leaving replies, triggering notifications, etc.

The Lemmy apps Sync and Connect can also block all users from an instance.

Edit: also check out [email protected] - it uses cross-posts to build up a curated listing of “good” posts by some metric. Conversely, the entire instance of beehaw.org works the opposite by extensive manual curation efforts to remove “bad” content by other metrics.

Even so, whether the content is original or not, if doing such a thing would perhaps encourage people to post more often, then it may be worth doing?

I can think of 3 easy ways to do it off the top of my head… all using PieFed. (1) Straight-up filtering of keywords, which allows All, None, or Some; (2) user customizable and shareable Feeds, so someone creates a good collection and everyone benefits; (3) the entire model of browsing content using PieFed is different: by offering more than simply Subscribed vs. All, you can do something like not subscribe to any political or news communities (i.e. have your cake), so that it doesn’t show up in your Subscribed feed, but then when you want to read that content, it is a click away in the News and Politics Feed (or another similar one of your choice made by you or other users; i.e. eat your cake too).

Using Lemmy though, no not really (not “trivially” I mean). Search for people using ad blocking filters, possibly Ublock. Maybe an app would help? But I don’t know which ones and kinda doubt it - I haven’t seen such a thing in Voyager or Thunder or Interstellar, etc. Development of the Lemmy codebase, in the highly difficult Rust language, is super slow. Basically if you want something like this, you’d have to code it yourself.

A workaround could be to make several Lemmy alts - one for each type of content you would want to include in your Subscribed feed. Like one could be only uplifting news. Most of the time you’d be looking at the same older content though… without being able to widen your view that would allow bringing in of new content.

Edit: I did think of another way: you could run your own Lemmy instance, and use a bot to curate the content however you wish.

Or again, PieFed already has multiple forms of it.

Instance blocking works on:

1. PieFed
2. the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect
3. instance admins who can choose to defederate
4. someone willing to go deep and make a custom web browser filter (presumably like Ublock Origin I would guess)

Nothing else works.

I am sorry this is happening to you! Yeah, Lemmy.World is fairly authoritian itself, and while usually it is still far less so than Lemmy.ml, this is one time where it seems that is not true.

Blocking the user seems like it will help restore your joy at having posted it, and hopefully PieFed can make some changes in the future to help make such cross-posts more visible where it came from.

Maybe all these details are interesting to know more about how federation and such work, or perhaps it’s the opposite and you don’t care, but either way the most important thing is that you now know how to move forward to achieve your aim:-).

I’m missing something: what does that user have to do with that community, besides being a fellow poster to it, just like you? If you are going to block them, then you could post to either community - do whatever you want, regardless of what they choose to do:-). Also if you did post to lemmy.world rather than lemmy.ml, I would guess that doing so would break the bot, which works to cross-post from ML to LW, not from LW to LW.

My goal here isn’t to tell you what to do, but to offer the knowledge of how to be free to do as you choose:-).

Yeah the Lemmy software is somehow even more authoritian than Reddit was, as you are seeing. There’s a modlog but no modmail, no way to ask questions or appeal, especially when the modlog simply says that it was done by a “mod” - who can you DM in that case for more details? Especially in situations where the stated reason for removal is not clear - e.g. if it’s not a real one but just a cover done by a power tripping mod (or admin).

Speaking of, there is a reason that [email protected] goes on tirades against lemmy.ml: bc that instance in particular is extremely pro-authoritian, but in odd ways that they never straight up tell you, leaving you to discover it on your own. Btw did you see the modlog reasons given for removal of some of your content there? You are apparently a “landlord defender” - mind you, whether that is true or not is entirely beside the point, the issue is that you are labelled as a Westerner, and so you don’t fit in with the pro-Russian & pro-Chinese agenda on that instance.

You will increasingly find these issues becoming annoyances, until eventually you are banned from the entire instance outright. Or at least that’s what happens to most people.

Before that happens, you might want to switch to start posting to [email protected] yourself, rather than [email protected], which for this reason, and because as I mentioned previously the former is significantly larger than the latter, and now also to mention a third reason this would also have a side benefit of taking over what [email protected] is currently doing, by you doing it yourself directly.

So, I hope these thoughts stimulate your thinking about what you might want to do.:-) There are definitely multiple issues involved.