TheHiddenCatboy

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  • I feel like everyone else has covered the twin angles of what happened to MKL and Malcolm X, and the whole worry about having a defined leader. So let me talk about another few angles of this.

    Let’s face it. The Left is not unified. There are a metric fuckton worth of little factions that have their own goals and their own ideas, and they can’t agree on anything except the Right is bad. If you’re wanting to go back to the Obama or Clinton years, and not recreate a socialist ideal in the USA, you’re panned as a liberal and not sufficiently radicalised by the socialists. If you would rather have a functioning government with government-subsidised healthcare and education, the liberals scream at you for being too radical, while the anarchists scream at you that any organised government is evil and shit. And everyone has their very specific, very defined vision, at least about this one thing they care about, and zero willingness to compromise or trade horses to any of the other factions with their limited view.

    This makes leadership at best complicated, if not outright impossible. How can we find someone who will equally represent all factions in our coalition, when the only thing we really agree on is Trump Bad ™?

    And how can leadership stop the failure path you have identified above? People think that we’re not being listened to (they’re right, also!). They think the only answer they have is to break shit until people listen to us. We’ve got plenty of people, from the main movers and shakers down to the rank and file, saying ‘hey, we break shit, that just makes Trump and his goons hit us harder, and now with apparent justification.’ Those people scream back at us that peaceful protests and electoralism don’t work, and that the only way we’ll be taken seriously is by breaking shit and making people feel the pain. Do you think a defined leader will make that failure chain go away? I don’t. I think that Trump is banking on that failure chain because the real goal is an American gestapo that goes around beating the shit out of people who don’t toe the line and what better way to form that gestapo than in response to Leftist ‘violence’. And I am not above this. I think that it’s far more effective to just tell people that driving a Tesla means supporting a fascist oligarch, but any time I try to make this point to the kinds of people who want to burn Teslas, we get back into the arguments I allude to in my first paragraph. AND this is before we get into agent provocateurs and COINTELPRO and other stuff.

    Finally, any real societal change that is going to stick from the egalitarian side of the fence will come from a grass-roots movement. We don’t want a charismatic leader who can stand up in front of the crowd and shake their fist. We want crowds of people who show up for the silly notion that human beings need respect and that this is not America. Leave the authoritarian charismatic leader for the Right. Egalitarianism is about society, not any one charismatic jerk with a bone to pick.

    JMNSHO.