Mama told me not to come.

She said, that ain’t the way to have fun.

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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • Wow, it’s been a long time since I had hardware that awful.

    My old NAS was a Phenom II x4 from 2009, and I only retired it a year and a half ago when I upgraded my PC. But I put 8GB RAM into that since it was a 64-bit processor (could’ve put up to 32GB I think, since it had 4 DDR3 slots). My NAS currently runs a Ryzen 1700, but I still have that old Phenom in the closet in case that Ryzen dies, but I prefer the newer HW because it’s lower power.

    That said, I once built a web server on an Arduino which also supported websockets (max 4 connections). That was more of a POC than anything though.


  • I don’t think that was the real issue though. People didn’t want it because a ton of games didn’t work, manufacturers weren’t excited because there wasn’t an existing market, and Valve wasn’t really invested. They basically tried to pawn most of the risk off onto hardware manufacturers.

    The Steam Deck took the opposite direction, they invested themselves in pushing hardware, which meant they had more incentive to get games to be compatible, and the result is creating a market that other manufacturers could actually quantify. They took pretty much all of the risk themselves, and later manufacturers decided to jump on board.







  • Most Linux users, including gamers, don’t really benefit from improvements to Linux since most of it is drivers for hardware they don’t have. Most userland software can be installed via flatpak or PPA (or other form of additional repository for your distro) if you really need something newer. But my understanding is that people (esp gamers) get annoyed more by stuff changing than missing out on new stuff.

    The whole point of recommending a stable distro is to give the best chance of the person finding the help they need, as well as things not breaking randomly, and you get that with stable release distros. If the user knows enough to disregard that, they know what distro would be a better fit anyway.



  • Yes, all of that is for old systems, like 6+ years old, as was stated earlier. Intel has been clear about needing a recent-ish CPU (Intel 10th gen or AMD 3000 series) with resizeable bar support enabled. So if you’re seeing terrible performance, options are:

    • upgrade CPU - a 5600X runs ~$120 and works with many older boards
    • hack around missing option for resizable bar support
    • wait for Intel to address the problem
    • buy a different GPU - RX 6700 XT is a good deal used

    If you’re building a new system or upgrading from an APU, the B580 is a phenomenal deal. If your system is 6+ years old, you’ll probably want to upgrade your CPU anyway.


  • Absolutely! I remember having ATI embedded graphics on my motherboard and it was more annoying than Nvidia’s drivers. Nvidia didn’t really change since then, it’s just that AMD submitted their driver to the kernel, so newer software tends to work better with it.

    dGPUs on laptops have always sucked on Linux, this isn’t new, nor is it necessarily a problem specific to Nvidia. Graphics switching on Linux just isn’t smooth, which is why I haven’t bought a laptop with a dGPU since switching to Linux. I hear it works, I just don’t see the point. Get a cheap laptop with an AMD APU and you can play casual games on it, and then build a cheap desktop PC with the savings and your experience will be much better. It’ll probably cost a bit more at the start, but your laptop will last much longer and you can upgrade the desktop more cheaply.


  • Debian is totally fine, why do you need a rapid update cycle? Everything you need is packaged with Steam. If for some reason you need something newer, you can always use whatever release is in testing at the time (use that release name, not “testing” itself) and you’ll get newer packages with minimal risk of stability issues (a lot of people run testing).

    There’s really nothing special about newer packages for gaming. Once it’s working, Debian will keep it that way.

    I personally use openSUSE Tumbleweed because I like newer packages for other reasons (I use it for software development) and hate release upgrades because they take forever, but tons of people use stable distros without issue.

    If you want some bells and whistles out of the box, I hear Bazzite is good. But any distro will work fine with Steam, and I’d assume Heroic and other launchers should also work fine on any distro they’re packaged for.




  • Nvidia is fine and has always been fine, it just hasn’t been ideal. I’ve used Nvidia GPUs on Linux for >10 years, and it has worked well.

    The main issues are (and have always been):

    • kernel/driver mismatch - pretty much only an issue on rolling releases
    • late support for new Linux graphics stack features - Wayland recently, but that’s a bit better now

    If you use a release based distro and don’t need to be on the bleeding edge (describes pretty much everyone), Nvidia is fine.

    I switched to AMD a couple years ago because they offered better value and I needed an upgrade anyway, Linux compatibility was a nice value add.


  • Ok, I just reviewed them quickly, and I see this:

    • Nvidia announced 5000 series - no third party reviews, and the official numbers are sus due to different settings; looks like they’re relying on AI for perf improvements, so we’ll see what that ends up looking like
    • AMD announced 9000 series CPUs and GPUs (GPUs through the press only) - CPUs are higher end (not applicable here) and GPUs have no details

    So all I see are dubious claims by Nvidia about products nowhere near Intel’s lineup with the cheapest one going for $550 (>2x higher than Intel’s top end) and the most expensive going for $2000. If those are interesting to you, you aren’t the target market for Intel’s GPUs, and if Nvidia’s are too expensive and you’re unsure about Intel’s GPU, you’ll wait to see what options AMD launches with, and there’s a lot of room between Intel and Nvidia.

    So I’m not exactly sure what the new releases change that you’re claiming.