xj9 [they/them, she/her]

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“death to america” doesn’t mean “burn it all down” because america isn’t you or me or the roads or supply lines. america is prisons and wage slavery and a commons eviscerated by greed; it is the spirit driving that immiseration and privation.

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Cake day: August 17th, 2023

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  • To start with, you aren’t going to get very far with a moralistic lens and I think that’s the source of your confusion and probably why folks are being dismissive of your question (which I’m going to assume for now is in good faith).

    The issue with rich people “the bourgeois” is that they place themselves in a position of power and organize productive forces to reward themselves first. All rich people have something in common with each other and not with us, they own the company, the land, &c. We just work there or rent. Even if they are providing some benefit or treat that we like, unless they are dismantling that structure and sharing they are working against our interests. No matter how hard you worked to become an owner or what your intentions are, your interests as an owner are diametrically opposed to the working class. There’s no “good” way to do it. This is separate from success, which isn’t a “bad” thing in itself.

    A large cooperative that makes millions or billions of dollars that are collectively managed by the workers is a “good” thing. The difference is who owns the stuff and how it is managed. There is also nothing “wrong” with a high standard of living, but again, it depends on how things are organized. Which is the real root of the analysis here: Who’s interests are ultimately being served? Who holds the power? Who owns the means of production?

    I hope that helps.