• NateNate60@lemmy.world
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    I don’t have a problem with snaps as a technology. If you want to use them, then who am I to judge?

    But what I do have a problem with is when I don’t have a choice and I am being forced to use what the distro maintainers think is good for me. That is what finally made me quit Ubuntu and switch to Fedora.

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    Wait… I’m just about to switch over to Linux on a laptop and was going to use Ubuntu. This looks kind of cursed though?

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          So? There’s nothing preventing someone from installing either, and they’re adding Wayland support to Cinnamon.

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            True one can install it on Mint. But at that level, just

            • install Kubuntu
            • add timeshift
            • run unsnap (removes snap, installs flatpak and flathub, installs apps as flatpaks)
            • add the new official deb repo for Firefox
            • remove a possibly installed Firefox Flatpak (has missing sandboxing) and install with apt
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              While this is not that hard to do if you’re used to linux, I would not reccommend this to someone who is switching from windows.

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      Just install something else like Linux Mint or Pop OS. Ubuntu doesn’t seem to want to respect your rights as a user. You do one thing and the sneakily do something else. Its a bit like how Microsoft makes Edge the default after an update.

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      Nah, this is just the same “hivemind hates thing” leaking over from Reddit. It’s not that different to the systemd hate. There’s a core of a point, but if a small fraction of the energy spent on the daily Two Minutes Hate were redirected towards fixing the things those folks don’t like, they wouldn’t have any molehills to treat as mountains.

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      Ignore the noise and go with Ubuntu LTS. When you get comfortable with that, you could try Debian.

      You could play it backwards too. Try Debian, if you can’t get it to do what you want, wipe and do Ubuntu LTS. But I do not recommend this path if you have no idea what you’re doing. People underestimate how difficult it is to do simple things when you don’t know how to, no matter how trivial.

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      I would suggest not judging distros by what the online community says.

      Install Ubuntu and see whether you encounter any issues. If not, who cares about what some meme says.

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      Ubuntu was great, until Unity debacle, when I switched to Mint DE. Few years later I returned to an Unity free Ubuntu just to be welcomed with snaps and Ubuntu pro.

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        Canonical have made the same mistake three times as far as desktop environments are concerned, IMO:

        1. 2004: went with GNOME
        2. 2010: made Unity as a way to rid themselves of the hostility of the GNOME devs
        3. 2017: Instead of leaving GNOME in the dust, they went back.

        IMO using GNOME is an abusive relationship.