Well, in some countries, there was indeed historical link between sexual/gender minorities and pedophile advocacy movements (well “movements” is kind of a strong word here) during the 1950s to 1980s. It’s hard for us to understand today, but during my studies, I’ve worked on that topic and met a few people invested in creating or dismantling this link.
But :
It didn’t last for long.
That’s certainly not what they have in mind.
Most importantly, although public and documented cases exist, those minor parts of the LGBT movements were CERTAINLY NOT the strongest allies of the pedophile advocacy movement. Their strongest allies were actually well… more probably from the ruling class.
Anyone can be a pedophile, regardless of other characteristics. The major champions of actual sexual abuse of minors today are politically right wing. Compare age-of-consent laws in red states to blue, or advocacy/performance of child marriages, and a pattern appears.
The conflation of evidence-based methods of sexual education with “sexualizing children” is a bald faced attempt to make kids more vulnerable. Kids trained in the importance of consent are far less likely to keep quiet when dealing with an abuser.
I would not concede, as you have here, that there was ever any appreciable link between trans advocacy and sexual abuse advocacy. The fact that some people somewhere advocated for both is true of any movement of sufficient size.
Even back then those co-operations were very controversial (some pedophile advocacy group got doxxed then all of its members’ lives destroyed by LGBT people, back in the eighties), or were stuff like “if the straights get to have AoC at 16 so we do”.
Indeed. And they weren’t always as clear as they may seem from today. A lot of stuff happened in my country around a certain topic : “If children can be incarcerated at 13yo, why can’t they be deemed unfit to have relationships with adults?”.
A few persons, no doubt, engaged with the “relationship with adults” side. But I met quite more, among LGBT activists of that time, who engaged with the “children shouldn’t be incarcerated at 13yo” side.
History remembered them as pro pedophilia activists, and to this day I still don’t know what to think about that.
95% because they’re basically nazis.
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Well, in some countries, there was indeed historical link between sexual/gender minorities and pedophile advocacy movements (well “movements” is kind of a strong word here) during the 1950s to 1980s. It’s hard for us to understand today, but during my studies, I’ve worked on that topic and met a few people invested in creating or dismantling this link.
But :
Anyone can be a pedophile, regardless of other characteristics. The major champions of actual sexual abuse of minors today are politically right wing. Compare age-of-consent laws in red states to blue, or advocacy/performance of child marriages, and a pattern appears.
The conflation of evidence-based methods of sexual education with “sexualizing children” is a bald faced attempt to make kids more vulnerable. Kids trained in the importance of consent are far less likely to keep quiet when dealing with an abuser.
I would not concede, as you have here, that there was ever any appreciable link between trans advocacy and sexual abuse advocacy. The fact that some people somewhere advocated for both is true of any movement of sufficient size.
Mmh. Yeah. That’s a sound point.
Even back then those co-operations were very controversial (some pedophile advocacy group got doxxed then all of its members’ lives destroyed by LGBT people, back in the eighties), or were stuff like “if the straights get to have AoC at 16 so we do”.
Indeed. And they weren’t always as clear as they may seem from today. A lot of stuff happened in my country around a certain topic : “If children can be incarcerated at 13yo, why can’t they be deemed unfit to have relationships with adults?”.
A few persons, no doubt, engaged with the “relationship with adults” side. But I met quite more, among LGBT activists of that time, who engaged with the “children shouldn’t be incarcerated at 13yo” side.
History remembered them as pro pedophilia activists, and to this day I still don’t know what to think about that.