Sorry if the premise is inflammatory, but I’ve been stymied by this for a while. How did we go from something like 1940s era collectivism or 1960s era leftism to the current bizarro political machine that seems to have hypnotized a large portion (if not majority) of the country? I get it - not everything is bad now, and not everything was good then. FDR’s internment camps, etc.

That said - our country seems to be at a low point in intellectualism and accountability. The DHHS head is an antivaxxer, the deputy chief of the DOJ is a far-right podcast nutball, etc. Their supporters seem to have no nuance to their opinion beyond “well, Trump said he’d fix the economy and I don’t like woke.”

Have people always been this unserious and unquestioning, or are we watching the public’s sanity unravel in real time? Or am I just imagining some idealistic version of the past that never existed, where politicians acted in good faith and people cared about the social order?

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      i wonder if microplastic could affect this. Even if its inert it must do something if enough accumulates in the brain.

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        Many things are possible, but we shouldn’t go shouting “It’s microplastics!” or “It’s TikTok!” or whatever without actual scientific research. There are just too many plausible-sounding hypotheses that need to be handled carefully.

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      Nah, that is not really true. There has been a significant bump due to covid, but before covid IQ test results have shown constant improvements.

      That said, I don’t think IQ and political idiocy are that strongly correlated. I’ve met a lot of highly trained people, who would doubtlessly get great IQ test results, who are politically extremely gullible.

      That also said, IQ tests are a quite flawed way to assess intelligence.

      My personal believe is: This is not about people getting dumber, but about propagandists getting better. I also think that unsteadiness is a way better catalysator for fascism than low intelligence.

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        IQ tests are not necessarily flawed to assess current state of intelligence, but they cannot be used to compare intelligence today to intelligence a century ago. Because 100 IQ today is not the same as 100 IQ score a century ago.

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      There was a study that confirmed this mentioned on a podcast that I listen to in the last couple of weeks. I tried to find it, but I didn’t spend much time. It was on the Grumpy Old Geeks podcast, if anyone wants to search more than I did. I think our phones and social media are the cause.