• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    I mean you just keep trying to project narratives onto what I’m actually saying instead of addressing what I’m actually saying.

    If this is how you approach people trying to convince them to vote Democrat, not even having the comprehension to actually listen to them, then it should be obvious to you how you cost the Democrats this election.

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        👆

        Edit: Here, let me help you understand yourself; the definition of what you are doing:

        Psychological Projection:

        Projection acts as a psychological safeguard, helping individuals deal with thoughts or feelings that they find difficult to accept. Several underlying reasons explain why people project:

        Ego Protection: When faced with uncomfortable emotions or impulses, projection helps shield the ego from perceived threats.

        Avoiding Responsibility: Projection enables individuals to sidestep accountability for their actions or feelings by attributing them to others.

        Coping with Anxiety: Internal conflicts can be overwhelming. Projection externalizes these conflicts, reducing internal stress.

        Reinforcing Worldviews: People often project to validate their beliefs or assumptions about others, even when these assumptions are inaccurate.

        Understanding these motivations can provide insight into why projection occurs and how it manifests in daily life.

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            You damaged the ability of Democrats to win the election by preventing us from moving them to an electable position. You project onto people who were genuinely trying to help Democrats not lose, because they wanted Democrats to move away positions which were unelectable (pro-billionaire, campaigning with Cheney, pro-genocide, etc…), this idea that by asking/ demanding Democrats do better, that they were the ones doing the damage, when in-fact, by attacking them, it was you doing the damage. I know deep inside you, you know this.

            In the future, just keep all your political opinions and strategies to yourself, so that we can actually get Democrats to win elections. If you keep demanding that your approach to electoralism be elevated and centered; the strategy of silencing criticisms and carrying water for bad policy; the strategy of marginalizing voices in a big tent party: if you keep demanding this, the Democrats will never win another election again.

            Because the fact of the matter is: you are a loser.

            As in, your strategy, your approach to electoralism was precisely what was elevated, centered, and focused on by Democratic strategists this election: and its a losing strategy. It lost the election. We’ve received the wages of your approach: Trump.

            So in the future, just stfu and get carried by your political betters.

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              i didn’t stop you from doing anything unfortunately

              i tried to support the democrats because i saw the danger of trump

              you just cared about taking away votes from the democrats by blaming them for gaza, and ridiculously calling them a billionaire republican party

              because you’re a fundamentalist that hates the US and democracy and loves terrorists

              as you said, stop projecting and take responsibility

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                Look, its obvious you don’t understand politics. If you don’t keep it to yourself in the future and allow us to move the Democrats to a position they can actually win from, they WILL lose again.

                6 million people didn’t show up the this election because of the Democrats position on Gaza. They didn’t need to be told that voting for a pro-genocide candidate was a bad thing. Its the politicians that needed to move to where the members of their party were. By defending these indefensible positions, you created a permission structure were Democratic politicians believed they didn’t have to change their policy.

                It wasn’t the activist left that convinced people that supporting a genocide is a bad thing. Thats just, a basic morality every person should have. What did you think was going to happen running a pro-genocide candidate in the anti-genocide party? What did you think was going to happen running a pro-billionaire candidate in the anti-billionaire party?

                Its physically impossible and completely impractical to “move” the voters of the Democratic party in a single election cycle, let alone an extremely compressed one like we experienced. Not just that, but these policy positions are ones that have been cultivated for literally decades under the Democratic brand. And you expected to do what? Shift the entire philosophical and rhetorical basis of the modern Democratic party in 12 weeks? Through suppression?

                Actually take a beat and think about your approach to rhetoric: Its quite literally, epifacial, preposterous.

                So I’m sorry that you hurt us. It sucks. It sucks that the damage you’ve done to this country. We could have won. But we needed to move the candidate. And your answer to that was to demonize anyone trying to save the election from the damage you were doing.

                And I know I’m not actually convincing you of anything, but by continuing to respond, you give me the opportunity to convince others the absurdity of your perspective. And it is working. I am shifting the basis and I know it, because I’ve seen how the tone and narrative has shifted. This is theatrics. Its a performance, and it works.

                So thank you for being my partner in this dance. The more you respond, the deeper and more obvious the idiocy is that underpins your approach becomes; the more people are convinced and develop support for my approach.

                Please continue; I can do this all day, and you are helping me gather people to my approach to politics.

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                  that’s right you did make a big deal out of gaza didn’t you, because you love terrorists and hate democrats

                  why do you love the terrorists so much, is it their refusal to make peace for 100 years?

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                    Please. Stop. How will I ever convince any one the absurdity of your position with you putting out rhetoric like this? (hard /s)

                    But seriously, your answer to my point is just racism? Or further: Is it that you actually want the Democrats to become a party of racists? What exactly is it that you are arguing for? Your answer to being against a genocide is to call the people being genocided all terrorists?

                    Is this it? Have we gotten to your core? Is this why you didn’t want the Democrats to stand up against genocide?

                    Can’t you do better? This game isn’t (as) fun if you can’t do better than simply being racist. Then of course we’ll have to get you banned from .world too.