Narcissism is a scapegoat. Since a narcissist doesn’t know they are a narcissist. So the person can never defend themselves against you calling them a narcissist.
The term has been overused in the past few decades. I would only accept it if a well trained psychologist/psychiatrist would claim it about people. Otherwise, just can’t trust the source.
Everytime some folks talk about racial supremacy… they always talk about white supremacy and call it bad. Then I’d just say something like what about Han supremacy? Then they just act like it doesn’t exist.
All this bullshit can be fun, but there’s a lot of factors at play.
You can’t say it’s all nurture and no nature. The differences are far too big. In Belgium guys and girls are raised together. The same schools, the same families, the same government funding.
Sure there vast differences between the two female CFO’s I’ve worked for. Same for the male employers I’ve worked for. The two that showed signs of aggression were both large people. A woman and a man. They physically had the ability to cause damage on someone else.
My mom was the one doing the reckless driving and my dad drives perfectly. Aggression comes from my mom’s side of the family and level headedness from my dad’s side of the family.
Ah, whatever. It’s far too broad of a subject to be definite about. Too many factors at play
Narcissists can know they are narcissists, it’s just extremely shameful to them to admit it. What they admit or acknowledge is irrelevant though, as the more important thing is to recognize them because it makes them immediately disadvantaged. Narcissts can’t defend themselves because being a narcissist, makes them disadvantaged, because they are delusional. That’s fine if a white supremacist is disadvantaged and can’t defend himself. That’s good. Lol.
I don’t care if you accept it or understand it.
There are other type of racial narcissists besides white supremacists. White supremacists are widely studied because of the KKK and the Holocaust, among others, plus the so obvious not being better thing… It’s a classic example. Stop defending it, it’s obvious you bring up other races so that you, a white supremacist, can engage in your delusions about hating other races and confirm it.
When you’re told that white people aren’t best, it’s irritating you, right? That’s histamine, it helps you learn. Brain is literally releasing it so you can change your mind. You’ve learned to combat this histamine rush with anxiety and adrenaline (the -phobia part of narcissism), and externalizing and confirming your delusions of white people being supreme, so you automatically switch to bashing PoC to create brain connections to solidify the delusion. No one wants to engage with you because you’re sick and misinformed and they don’t want to make it worse by adding to those connections when you need to clean up and prune other connections first.
You can’t say it’s all nurture and no nature
Then take hormones and tell us how different you are. Go live as a woman. No one is stopping you. The fact that agender and multigender and intersex people exist shows that these binaries don’t exist and if there are hormonal and genetic influences on gendered behavior, why does gender expression change over time and in different places? Why aren’t you wearing a white fluffy wig and button up boots? Why don’t you have long hair and a dress like Jesus? Are you a fishing guy, a football guy, a soccer guy, a DnD guy, a rock climbing guy, etc - all different expressions of male gender, right? Why is someone with XY genes and complete androgen insensitivity labeled a girl? What gender is someone with Klinefelter’s (XXY)?
Aggressive behaviors happen because the person doing them has given themselves permission to do so.
Would your mom act as aggressively in front of her boss or someone she wants to impress? Or is she more openly aggressive in front of her family? And many large people actually have a “gentle giant” reputation, it’s just down to whatever that person thinks is an acceptable behavior.
In “Why Does He Do That?” Lundy asks abusers why they didn’t keep going. He says something like, “you punched her and shoved her to the ground, why didn’t you kick her in the face then? You could’ve really gotten her good then.” And the abuser will look genuinely shocked and say, “I would never do THAT, that could seriously kill her or hurt her.” They know. They have control. They would change their behavior if there were witnesses they cared about. They CHOOSE those actions because they give themselves permission.
You are a white supremacist by your own words. Too ashamed to admit it, though, just like I said in my first paragraph.
That’s not what ad hominem is.
Sure, you can be a geographical narcissist (xenophobe) too on top of being a racial narcissist. A lot of narcissists overlap but not always, and that’s why we get unique narcissistic individuals. Physical narcissists, gender narcissists, intellectual narcissists, etc. Many ways they interact.
And then if I spoke with you about something that is neutral and doesn’t trigger your narcissism, like maybe video games, then we’d be okay and we could have a polite conversation. Because narcissism is primarily delusions-based.
Nah I’d prefer being called a European supremacist, can you do that instead? The child in my wife’s uterus is going to be Eurasian.
Now we got the choice between raising it in Europe or in Asia and I prefer Europe. Although it depends on where in these two locations. Belgium Vs Indonesia. My main concern is the heat. The rest is fine, but god damn I want my winters.
Everyone has narcissistic traits, we can just call it self esteem. But only a very small part of the population has Narcissistic personality disorder.
It is 50% genetic 👀 so we’re back to nature/nurture blabla.
My mom did have quite the symptoms of the disorder. Mainly she thought that everyone was envious of her and that anything someone did was just something to affect her.
Now personally I have different symptoms, it doesn’t use other people, it’s mainly self esteem stuff like: I can get sexually turned on by looking in a mirror. I think I’m above average intellectually able. I think I make good decisions. I love talking about the details of my life. (I’m also interested in details of others their lives, most people lack the desire to be transparent). I also like talking about details bout anything to be honest. It’s just that I know a lot of my own life.
Now. Psychologist puts all of that on “mild autism”. Since my dad is autistic.
Now… Call me autist supremacist 😎 literally different brain wiring.
My job is to portray truthful information so that stakeholders can gain insight.
So I enjoy looking at the information you give me and see if it’s correct and if it’s the complete picture.
You’re quite biased toward nurture and give little regard to nature in this subject.
While it’s common knowledge that both are impactful.
Human behaviour. You’ll find speakers that talk more about the nurture part. You’ll find speakers that talk more about the nature part.
You are biased toward the nurture part, so you will align yourself more with speakers that talk about that. While willfully ignoring the other side of the truth.
Everything being legal gives my behaviour a pass. But that’s beside the point.
The article does include genetics as well as nurture.
It also states that a lot of it is unknown, so we cannot be definite.
“Several studies from across the world have demonstrated that narcissism is, at least partly, genetic—in fact, according to a couple of studies, the risk of inheriting narcissism is over 50% in some cases. Narcissism, like other conditions under the behavioral genetics umbrella, is often studied using twins.”
Narcissism is a scapegoat. Since a narcissist doesn’t know they are a narcissist. So the person can never defend themselves against you calling them a narcissist.
The term has been overused in the past few decades. I would only accept it if a well trained psychologist/psychiatrist would claim it about people. Otherwise, just can’t trust the source.
Everytime some folks talk about racial supremacy… they always talk about white supremacy and call it bad. Then I’d just say something like what about Han supremacy? Then they just act like it doesn’t exist.
All this bullshit can be fun, but there’s a lot of factors at play.
You can’t say it’s all nurture and no nature. The differences are far too big. In Belgium guys and girls are raised together. The same schools, the same families, the same government funding.
Sure there vast differences between the two female CFO’s I’ve worked for. Same for the male employers I’ve worked for. The two that showed signs of aggression were both large people. A woman and a man. They physically had the ability to cause damage on someone else.
My mom was the one doing the reckless driving and my dad drives perfectly. Aggression comes from my mom’s side of the family and level headedness from my dad’s side of the family.
Ah, whatever. It’s far too broad of a subject to be definite about. Too many factors at play
Narcissists can know they are narcissists, it’s just extremely shameful to them to admit it. What they admit or acknowledge is irrelevant though, as the more important thing is to recognize them because it makes them immediately disadvantaged. Narcissts can’t defend themselves because being a narcissist, makes them disadvantaged, because they are delusional. That’s fine if a white supremacist is disadvantaged and can’t defend himself. That’s good. Lol.
I don’t care if you accept it or understand it.
There are other type of racial narcissists besides white supremacists. White supremacists are widely studied because of the KKK and the Holocaust, among others, plus the so obvious not being better thing… It’s a classic example. Stop defending it, it’s obvious you bring up other races so that you, a white supremacist, can engage in your delusions about hating other races and confirm it.
When you’re told that white people aren’t best, it’s irritating you, right? That’s histamine, it helps you learn. Brain is literally releasing it so you can change your mind. You’ve learned to combat this histamine rush with anxiety and adrenaline (the -phobia part of narcissism), and externalizing and confirming your delusions of white people being supreme, so you automatically switch to bashing PoC to create brain connections to solidify the delusion. No one wants to engage with you because you’re sick and misinformed and they don’t want to make it worse by adding to those connections when you need to clean up and prune other connections first.
Then take hormones and tell us how different you are. Go live as a woman. No one is stopping you. The fact that agender and multigender and intersex people exist shows that these binaries don’t exist and if there are hormonal and genetic influences on gendered behavior, why does gender expression change over time and in different places? Why aren’t you wearing a white fluffy wig and button up boots? Why don’t you have long hair and a dress like Jesus? Are you a fishing guy, a football guy, a soccer guy, a DnD guy, a rock climbing guy, etc - all different expressions of male gender, right? Why is someone with XY genes and complete androgen insensitivity labeled a girl? What gender is someone with Klinefelter’s (XXY)?
Aggressive behaviors happen because the person doing them has given themselves permission to do so.
Would your mom act as aggressively in front of her boss or someone she wants to impress? Or is she more openly aggressive in front of her family? And many large people actually have a “gentle giant” reputation, it’s just down to whatever that person thinks is an acceptable behavior.
In “Why Does He Do That?” Lundy asks abusers why they didn’t keep going. He says something like, “you punched her and shoved her to the ground, why didn’t you kick her in the face then? You could’ve really gotten her good then.” And the abuser will look genuinely shocked and say, “I would never do THAT, that could seriously kill her or hurt her.” They know. They have control. They would change their behavior if there were witnesses they cared about. They CHOOSE those actions because they give themselves permission.
Yeah I can’t take you serious when you call me a white supremacist. When you antagonise people, they won’t care about all that much that you say.
Then you call them a narcissist so that you don’t have to care.
I am not going to experiment with estrogen, I like muscle.
It’s just an ad hominem argumentation. Very low quality
And what kind of ridiculous term is PoC. Trust me, I’m far more anti American than anti Asia/Africa/middle east/south American.
That term just signals me that you’re American, and because of that, I actually start being xenophobic against you. Which is quite fun innit.
When I see dead bodies and it’s said that it’s a russian. Then I won’t care.
Bloody fun thing, the human mind.
You are a white supremacist by your own words. Too ashamed to admit it, though, just like I said in my first paragraph.
That’s not what ad hominem is.
Sure, you can be a geographical narcissist (xenophobe) too on top of being a racial narcissist. A lot of narcissists overlap but not always, and that’s why we get unique narcissistic individuals. Physical narcissists, gender narcissists, intellectual narcissists, etc. Many ways they interact.
And then if I spoke with you about something that is neutral and doesn’t trigger your narcissism, like maybe video games, then we’d be okay and we could have a polite conversation. Because narcissism is primarily delusions-based.
Nah I’d prefer being called a European supremacist, can you do that instead? The child in my wife’s uterus is going to be Eurasian.
Now we got the choice between raising it in Europe or in Asia and I prefer Europe. Although it depends on where in these two locations. Belgium Vs Indonesia. My main concern is the heat. The rest is fine, but god damn I want my winters.
Everyone has narcissistic traits, we can just call it self esteem. But only a very small part of the population has Narcissistic personality disorder.
It is 50% genetic 👀 so we’re back to nature/nurture blabla.
My mom did have quite the symptoms of the disorder. Mainly she thought that everyone was envious of her and that anything someone did was just something to affect her.
Now personally I have different symptoms, it doesn’t use other people, it’s mainly self esteem stuff like: I can get sexually turned on by looking in a mirror. I think I’m above average intellectually able. I think I make good decisions. I love talking about the details of my life. (I’m also interested in details of others their lives, most people lack the desire to be transparent). I also like talking about details bout anything to be honest. It’s just that I know a lot of my own life.
Now. Psychologist puts all of that on “mild autism”. Since my dad is autistic.
Now… Call me autist supremacist 😎 literally different brain wiring.
Self-esteem isn’t the same as narcissism, whatsoever.
It’s not “50%” genetic.
Narcissism is a belief system.
You’re boring.
For now, the main contributing factors to NPD seem to be: Genetics
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9742-narcissistic-personality-disorder
Tsk tsk tsk
I’m curious, what’s your job?
My job is to portray truthful information so that stakeholders can gain insight.
So I enjoy looking at the information you give me and see if it’s correct and if it’s the complete picture.
You’re quite biased toward nurture and give little regard to nature in this subject.
While it’s common knowledge that both are impactful.
Human behaviour. You’ll find speakers that talk more about the nurture part. You’ll find speakers that talk more about the nature part.
You are biased toward the nurture part, so you will align yourself more with speakers that talk about that. While willfully ignoring the other side of the truth.
We all do this.
It’s beautiful
Your own article disagrees with that statement.
There’s no gene associated with narcissism and no biological mechanism of action. There’s no cure. It’s a belief system.
You want it to be nature because you think it will give your behavior a pass. It doesn’t.
Everything being legal gives my behaviour a pass. But that’s beside the point.
The article does include genetics as well as nurture.
It also states that a lot of it is unknown, so we cannot be definite.
“Several studies from across the world have demonstrated that narcissism is, at least partly, genetic—in fact, according to a couple of studies, the risk of inheriting narcissism is over 50% in some cases. Narcissism, like other conditions under the behavioral genetics umbrella, is often studied using twins.”
https://www.charliehealth.com/post/is-narcissism-genetic-the-role-of-genetics-in-narcissistic-personality-disorder#%3A~%3Atext=Several+studies+from+across+the%2Cis+often+studied+using+twins.