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    Are you completely outside of your mind? Trump is shipping massive bulldozers to level the West Bank and turn it into a billionaire resort, with no intention of returning the Palestinians to their land once it’s done.

    Ask yourself this, between Harris and Trump, which one is more likely to withhold munitions and military aid from Israel? Remember, this isn’t “ideal land.” Those are your only two choices.

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      Democrats were already providing Israel everything it needed to level West Bank. You only say otherwise because you’re a genocide denier when it’s your team doing it.

      Harris and Trump were both equally unlikely to withhold military aid and munitions from Israel. The fact you think otherwise it’s because you’re a genocide denier when it’s your team doing it.

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        Cool. So you’re in agreement that there was no way to stop the genocide.

        Then why not vote against the fascist dictator? Oh, because you have superior morals when it comes to the Palestinians, but not the Hispanics and trans people in the US. Got it.

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          So you’re not even pretending to be honest.

          And yeah, nothing fascist about exterminating an entire country to expand an authoritarian ethnostate

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            You are again drawing a false comparison, yet I’m the dishonest one? You’re either willfully ignorant, or delusional.

            So you’re fine with people being throw into vans and flown into El Salvadoran gulags? Trans people not being allowed to identify as their gender identity? Married women being able to vote? People being allowed to protest Israel?

            All of that is fine with you, because you didn’t have to fill in a bubble on a piece of paper that would have resulted in a similar outcome for Palestinians?

            Get over yourself and grow up. This is real life.

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              You are again drawing a false comparison, yet I’m the dishonest one? You’re either willfully ignorant, or delusional.

              Oh sorry, I thought you said we agreed. I guess you are also “willfully ignorant or delusional”

              So you’re fine with people being throw into vans and flown into El Salvadoran gulags? Trans people not being allowed to identify as their gender identity? Married women being able to vote?

              So you’re fine with genocide?

              People being allowed to protest Israel?

              Another the thing that wasn’t allowed under Democrats either.

              All of that is fine with you

              Genocide is fine with you

              have resulted in a similar outcome for Palestinians?

              Two posts ago you were claiming that the outcome wasn’t similar and that I was delusional, but now that you’ve realised that lie isn’t going to fly, you’ve effortlessly shifted from the motte to the baily. When we can see you being willfully dishonest like this, why should we listen to you?

              Get over yourself and grow up. This is real life

              Baby.

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                False. I said the choices were genocide, or genocide and fascism. That’s where our debate began.

                Good luck in life telling everyone how superior you are while distorting the world around you to fit your narrative. I’m done with your nonsense.

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                  False. I said the choices were genocide, or genocide and fascism.

                  I know you have no issues with lying, but you should at least not lie about easily verified facts

                  I’m done with your nonsense

                  “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

                  • Jean-Paul Sartre
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                    Right here, genius. https://lemmy.world/comment/16593887

                    Smug quotes are a perfect addition to your moral superiority. I’ll try to remember it when I’m protesting with JVP, while innocent migrants are sent to torture prisons for life without due process and the Palestinians are eradicated, all because you’re above doing anything to stop it.