I used to have a friend like you after 2016 who was panicked about Trump. They donated $2700, almost 1/3 of their savings as they aren’t that well off, to Doug Jones in the Special Elections and other politicians in the Midterms of 2018 who swept in to “push back” against Trump. Doug Jones won the senate seat by like 0.001% of the vote. His money may have actually tipped the scales, or at the very least was maximally influential compared to most American political donations. Best case scenario right?
Guess what. Doug Jones voted with Trump over 85% of the time, including on all the controversial and close measures and appointments of judges. Doug Jones turned around and stabbed all his supporters in the back and turned against unions. This radlib gave up a third of his hard earned nest-egg because he was so scared about fascist Trump taking over that he was nearly willing to jihad but didn’t know where to send that energy to be constructive. So he worked a bunch of OT and then sent it into the closest races during special elections and midterms where people aren’t paying as much attention.
Now he is a communist. He learned his lesson. I hope you will too one day and break free of the spell the Democrats have over poor sad sacks like both of you.
Are you so intellectually impoverished you cannot imagine anything outside the strict binary of “do nothing” and “press button that does nothing”?
At least pressing the button is doing something cause I’m moving my arm?
I suggest Lenin to start off with, then finding likeminded people to work with. Turns out it actually is possible for the masses to “do something” very funny.
Here’s a deal. I’ll press your button and vote blue if you join a communist party and begin organizing (please read Lenin before contributing suggestions to your new comrades though). If trump is such a fascist threat we should do everything we can right? After all, Hitler and the fascists so hated communists the first things they did was lock them up and break the unions with violence. Then it was the communists eventually who saved the world from fascism. Communism has a proven track record defeating fascism and surely “it’s the lesser of two evils” right?
If we’re being so realistic and pragmatic, why don’t we use historical evidence for how to beat Trump?
Do you think we think revolutions just… happen? That we aren’t working incredibly hard trying to find allies, build the labor movement, build the indigenous movement, the queer movement, the anti-racist movement? That we’re not trying to bring those struggles together under the same revolutionary banner? I understand you might not see much of this as being related to leftists because socialists and communists often put aside their specific political labels when it’s time to organize, but I guarantee that if you go and do something real (not voting) you’ll immediately start coming across the communists. That’s what a communist does, in practice.
What part of that sounds like he’s doing nothing? Do you have any clue what communists do? Like, you can go ahead and open What is to be Done and at no point does Lenin say “yes and at this point you wait and do nothing,” feel free to investigate the matter and call me out if I’m wrong.
I used to have a friend like you after 2016 who was panicked about Trump. They donated $2700, almost 1/3 of their savings as they aren’t that well off, to Doug Jones in the Special Elections and other politicians in the Midterms of 2018 who swept in to “push back” against Trump. Doug Jones won the senate seat by like 0.001% of the vote. His money may have actually tipped the scales, or at the very least was maximally influential compared to most American political donations. Best case scenario right?
Guess what. Doug Jones voted with Trump over 85% of the time, including on all the controversial and close measures and appointments of judges. Doug Jones turned around and stabbed all his supporters in the back and turned against unions. This radlib gave up a third of his hard earned nest-egg because he was so scared about fascist Trump taking over that he was nearly willing to jihad but didn’t know where to send that energy to be constructive. So he worked a bunch of OT and then sent it into the closest races during special elections and midterms where people aren’t paying as much attention.
Now he is a communist. He learned his lesson. I hope you will too one day and break free of the spell the Democrats have over poor sad sacks like both of you.
Ah, yes, because “nothing” as a course of action will do wonders!
who suggested doing nothing?
Are you so intellectually impoverished you cannot imagine anything outside the strict binary of “do nothing” and “press button that does nothing”?
At least pressing the button is doing something cause I’m moving my arm?
I suggest Lenin to start off with, then finding likeminded people to work with. Turns out it actually is possible for the masses to “do something” very funny.
Here’s a deal. I’ll press your button and vote blue if you join a communist party and begin organizing (please read Lenin before contributing suggestions to your new comrades though). If trump is such a fascist threat we should do everything we can right? After all, Hitler and the fascists so hated communists the first things they did was lock them up and break the unions with violence. Then it was the communists eventually who saved the world from fascism. Communism has a proven track record defeating fascism and surely “it’s the lesser of two evils” right?
If we’re being so realistic and pragmatic, why don’t we use historical evidence for how to beat Trump?
All I’ve ever heard from communists are theory and a mythical “revolution” that’ll happen any day now. At least the liberals have done something
yeah like genocide in gaza
Do you think we think revolutions just… happen? That we aren’t working incredibly hard trying to find allies, build the labor movement, build the indigenous movement, the queer movement, the anti-racist movement? That we’re not trying to bring those struggles together under the same revolutionary banner? I understand you might not see much of this as being related to leftists because socialists and communists often put aside their specific political labels when it’s time to organize, but I guarantee that if you go and do something real (not voting) you’ll immediately start coming across the communists. That’s what a communist does, in practice.
“Now he is a communist”
What part of that sounds like he’s doing nothing? Do you have any clue what communists do? Like, you can go ahead and open What is to be Done and at no point does Lenin say “yes and at this point you wait and do nothing,” feel free to investigate the matter and call me out if I’m wrong.