Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

  • awesomesauce309@midwest.social
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    I’m not anti AI, but I wish the people who are would describe what they are upset about a bit more eloquently, and decipherable. The environmental impact I completely agree with. Making every google search run a half cooked beta LLM isn’t the best use of the worlds resources. But every time someone gets on their soapbox in the comments it’s like they don’t even know the first thing about the math behind it. Like just figure out what you’re mad about before you start an argument. It comes across as childish to me

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      It feels like we’re being delivered the sort of stuff we’d consider flim-flam if a human did it, but lapping it up bevause the machine did it.

      “Sure, boss, let me write this code (wrong) or outline this article (in a way that loses key meaning)!” If you hired a human who acted like that, we’d have them on an improvement plan in days and sacked in weeks.

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        So you dislike that the people selling LLMs are hyping up their product? They know they’re all dumb and hallucinate, their business model is enough people thinking it’s useful that someone pays them to host it. If the hype dies Sam Altman is back in a closet office at Microsoft, so he hypes it up.

        I actually don’t use any LLMs, I haven’t found any smart ones. Text to image and image to image models are incredible though, and I understand how they work a lot more.

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          I expect the hype people to do hype, but I’m frustrated that the consumers are also being hypemen. So much of this stuff, especially at the corporate level, is FOMO rather than actually delivered value.

          If it was any other expensive and likely vendor-lockin-inducing adventure, it would be behind years of careful study and down-to-the-dime estimates of cost and yield. But the same people who historically took 5 years to decide to replace an IBM Wheelwriter with a PC and a laser printer are rushing to throw AI at every problem up to and including the men’s toilet on the third floor being clogged.

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      But every time someone gets on their soapbox in the comments it’s like they don’t even know the first thing about the math behind it. Like just figure out what you’re mad about before you start an argument.

      The math around it is unimportant, frankly. The issue with AI isn’t about GANN networks alone, it’s about the licensing of the materials used to train a GANN and whether or not companies that used materials to train a GANN had proper ownership rights. Again, like the post I made, there’s an easy argument to make that OpenAI and others never licensed the material they used to train the AI, making the whole model poisoned by copyright theft.

      There’s plenty of uses of GANNs that are not problematic. Bespoke solution for predicting the outcomes of certain equations or data science uses that involve rough predictions on publically sourced statistics (or privately owned.) The problem is that these are not the same uses that we call “AI” today – and we’re actually sleeping on much better uses of neural networks by focusing on a pie in the sky AGI nonsense being pushed by companies that are simply pushing highly malicious, copyright infringing products to make a quick buck on the stock market.