• earphone843@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    A lot of those businesses still need to exist for society to function. They could be restructured into non-profits, but they’ll still exist.

    There will always be a need for jobs that people aren’t going to just do for the hell of it. No one enjoys breaking their back harvesting crops or digging ditches.

    I’m not saying the current system is any good, but the idea of no one having to work if they don’t want to is not obtainable without some serious advances in robotics.

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        1 day ago

        Where’s that money going to come from?

        The point of UBI isn’t to allow anyone to not work if they don’t want to. It’s so that everyone can live securely while still contributing to keeping society running, and allow those who can’t work to live without worry about survival.

        You can’t have UBI without workers. It’s still working to survive, just with a massive safety net.

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          From net worth of all millionaires and billionaires, where it’s not currently being used for anything worthwhile.

          UBI is only the first step towards actual redistribution of wealth

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            Even if you could wave a magic wand and magically convert all that net worth straight across into that amount of cold hard cash, it wouldn’t pay for a measly $10k UBI for all working-age Americans for more than two years.

            Then what’s the plan? That 10k costs over $2 trillion.

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            1 day ago

            That networth isn’t cash on hand. It’s comprised of assets that can’t be instantly converted into cash.

            And like the other person said, it’s not nearly enough for UBI.

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      I specifically mean those companies that do not directly add to the jobs that “need” to be done.

      My feeling is that more people work bullshit jobs because they pay better than e.g. harvesting crops or driving a bus.

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        They work bullshit jobs because harvesting crops and driving a bus are shitty jobs that basically no one wants to do.

        I used to work those shitty jobs, and pay wasn’t the issue