I literally have a rpi4 and just put libreELEC on it

But yeah that’s the thing, even you call it “trained” sociopathy. I.e. everyone else could be trained into it as well. Of course that wouldn’t happen because people are different, we can’t predict everything yada yada. If you grow up with awareness about richness and the good of socialism, communism and so on it’s more unlikely you make the same mistakes and so on.

But if you’re extremely poor and have a mindset of “oh I just have to work hard and then be rich eventually” and actually aspire to be rich, which a lot a lot of people do, then I think those will quickly become exactly the same as current rich people. The reason the system still works is because there are still a majority of people believing in it and supporting it. Those poorer people would, if they became rich, be essentially the same kind of rich person as current rich people.

But if the birth isn’t today, the pregnancy might as well not exist. I mean of course the physical disadvantages of having a big belly are relevant, but the baby isn’t, it can’t do anything, it will never be born

But… Why would anyone do that?

Sure, people might try it out more because of the “apparent” lack of consequences… But the reason we humans don’t do violent shit isn’t because of things, it’s because of other humans, and they remain exactly the same.

If one person turns out to be a murderous maniac, the people around them would probably band together and take them out at the start of the loop, effectively being a very real consequence you’d wish to avoid.

What changes though is only your current external situation not relating to humans is staying the same. Everyone can still continue to grow and go to therapy, learn more about themselves and the world. This is basically almost completely still the real world. Most changes a human notices is the humans around them changing, not the walls of the apartment. Relationships still evolve, breakups happen, new love can be found. Science can still continue, we can use human memory and the internet to collect and analyze data. Instead of amassing physical wealth we might amass knowledge.

Then we agree. It just sounded like you somehow attributed more inherent evilness to them than everyone else. I of course agree that the resulting behavior is worse, but mostly by accident through the situations they’ve been in.

We would disagree there then. In my opinion the only difference is the situation people are in not allowing them to get more. If you need to work 2 months to get a new phone, gotta be “happy” with it for at least 2 months, and also can’t buy something else new.

If you look at lottery winners, most of them manage to lose all the money relatively quickly.

Most “non-rich” people spend their money they get from working quickly/instantly.

Yeah of course we can override our desires, I never said anything to the contrary. The difference though is not the existence of the desire, but the lack of overriding it.

This isn’t unique to the “hungry ghosts”.

Our behaviors are really quite simple. It has been shown a few times that our logical explanations for how we decide on our behavior are mostly rationalizations after the decision has been made, not actual reasons. I.e. like you say, we want more, then we find an explanation why we would want more.

For example, someone likes a new phone because it’s shiny and new, and says “why wouldn’t I treat myself once in a while”, “it’s faster which makes me more productive”, “it has X and Y new features which are useful in A and B situations”(which they’ll never encounter), and so on

Of course, I didn’t make some kind of point about the general use of GUIs and CLIs, I just said that GUIs are much faster if you can’t remember commands, which is the problem in this thread.

True of course. If you look at my comment though, I haven’t said that speed is the point of the command line. Just that Linux users are obsessed with it. For most users most of the time, the repetition/automation is not the point and ability to write scripts is not the most important thing. And you can combine tools with GUIs as well, it’s just slower. Same with reliability, GUIs don’t have to be and usually aren’t unreliable, so command line only has the automation and speed going for it.

you only need to remember few letters of the command

I believe that is exactly the problem in this thread. The command history only works if you remember in the first place.

Use GUIs for all the things.

Linux users are obsessed with the command line because it’s faster if you can type fast and remember everything. If you can’t, GUIs are actually much much faster because you are visually guided towards what you’re looking for and have to spend little time looking for the correct commands and syntax and everything.

True, but that isn’t really very unique to the US

The main reason US can and could ever delude itself into being great is for having a ridiculous people-to-land/resources ratio. There is nothing inherently great about how the US does things, it just seems that way because you can do whatever you want if you have essentially infinite resources compared to everyone else.

Don’t forget to update us please in case you figure something out :)