Where to begin…
But I’ll touch on something no one else has here.
Shopping carts. It’s mindblowing to me that the country that sent men to the moon still hasn’t figured out that its easier for everyone if they turn on all 4 wheels rather than the 2 front ones.
That way you can slide your cart sideways to make room for other shoppers. And turning it takes no effort.
And even… even if it is some weird cost cutting thing. Why not make them turn on the rear wheels? That would still make it easier than in the front. Since you steer the cart from the rear.
Get your shit together. Put gun controll aside, put your dumb ass two party politics aside and focus on what matters. Your godawful shopping carts.
The gun rights y’all have?
Now, most people would tell you that Gun Control Works and that you should just do that and get less dead kids per month which is a generally good thing.
… But here’s another thing to consider. As long as you’re allowed to purchase weapons for cheap and easy.
You do realise you can in fact do something about the assholes in your government and your oligarchies with those guns, right? That they can be used for more than just killing children?
Luigi Mangione seemed to get it.
They know that, they stroke their gun boners to that very thought.
Except the tyranny they’re afraid of is someone coming for their guns, or “communism.” But they don’t know what communism is and aren’t aware that the guns aren’t the rights they’re losing.
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You’re describing the MAGA crowd.
All I’m saying is that there are plenty of non-MAGA Americans out there. Like 55% of the country or something? And that those people can get guns just as easily as the MAGAts do – And that “terrified children and minorities” are not the only human persons that can be targeted by a firearm.
I know they won’t
They lack the spine for it (or the spinal injuries?)
But that’s precisely what makes this a case of ‘thing they aren’t ready to hear’
You’re describing the MAGA crowd.
Biggest limp dick cucks are the most vocal gun owners many with poor gun culture. As if this is on purpose…
The internet had always been full of those gun boner guys fantasizing about taking up arms against threats to freedom. Younger me had no clue they were the tyranny themselves.
Keep on spreading comments like this and you might actually be able to get gun control implemented in the US.
Ah but there is my cartoon villain gambit: If my sentiment gets popular, THEN–
Either the USians that still have braincells finally nut up and take their country back. Which would be good for friends of mine that live there.
Or
The US government finally gets their shit together and starts doing something about the fact that any old idiot can have the sort of weapon most countries reserve for their armies. And this would ALSO be good for friends of mine that live there.
Either way, I win. [evil gay horse noises]
Ok another thing people haven’t really touched on is government restrictions on dangerous shit generally. I’m not just talking about guns, but also cars. When I was in the states I saw so many car accidents and bits of car on the road. That doesn’t need to happen. It turns out that if you have proper driving tests and mandatory classes, people don’t crash as much. Same with guns though. Owning a gun is fine if you learn how to properly use and store it.
The level of uneducation in the US is a threat to the entire species. Most of Ylyour people are uneducated, fat and dangerous. After the last election, I have lost hope in the US as a collectivity, you deserve your unfair system because you chose it. You elected a convict rapist, fellon, racist, fat billionaire who doesn’t pay taxes and tried to steal the election, your deserve to be treated the way you will be, you made a choice.
They have guns to protect against corrupt governments and from what I can tell … they’re using it to protect the corrupt …?
I agree and accept your judgment. I’m not optimistic about the future of this country; at this point my only hope is that we don’t take the rest of the world down with us.
Sadly, this is by design.
O. Right. And I’m sure your country of residence is squeaky clean. No corruption at all right?
Not what I said.
Get out of here with those propaganda techniques, please
I’m sure you will address each and every one of these fallacies correct?
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Hasty Generalization: The argument assumes that most or all people in the U.S. are “uneducated, fat, and dangerous,” without providing sufficient evidence or accounting for the diversity of the population.
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Ad Hominem: The criticism targets individuals based on personal attributes or perceived character flaws (“fat,” “uneducated”) rather than addressing systemic or factual issues.
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Straw Man: The argument oversimplifies and exaggerates the actions of voters or the qualities of the elected individual, constructing a distorted view of their intentions or rationale.
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Slippery Slope: By claiming that the U.S.'s level of “uneducation” is a threat to the entire species, the argument leaps to a catastrophic conclusion without sufficient reasoning.
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False Dilemma: It suggests that the outcome of the election leaves no room for nuance, implying that all Americans are complicit and deserving of the system without considering other factors such as political constraints, voter suppression, or dissenting voters.
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The level of nonsensical nationalist propaganda in the US is maybe only second to North Korea’s.
Yeah kids reciting the pledge of allegiance is honestly psychotic.
You made me think of my buddy from the states visiting me in Toronto 2010-ish laughing at the Canadian flags they sometimes saw flying from people’s houses and other buildings. I asked her what struck her so funny about them and she blanked for a second. She said, “It’s just weird seeing so many flags that aren’t American… Like, this is a country too… um.” We had a brilliant talk about flag-waving patriots for a bit, but seeing that glitch was really interesting and I’ve never forgotten it.
That said, I had plenty of teachers growing up and know tonnes of educators now who’d totally be into forcing students to salute the Canadian flag and pledge allegiance to their God & Country every morning. The only thing stopping them is legislation preventing it, not national identity.
If there’s one thing the US is great at, it’s exporting the most stupid stuff they can come up with. At the moment, unfortunately, it seems to be politics.
Probably 3rd behind China
I honestly think the US and China might be neck and neck
Both are empires Both are very concerned with both their outward image and with what the peasantry is up to, lest they get too antsy.
And both have very advanced technology and a very well developed media ecosystem at their disposal.
They both probably push out about as much propaganda by weight.
I’m actually not sure how it compares to Israel. Might be close too
Gun control works.
And OK maybe it doesn’t solve the problem 100%, but it solves it 99%, and that’s a lot of schoolkids that aren’t dead any more. Look at any first world country for working examples; I’m in the UK, and yes we still have some gun violence, but it’s a whole load less than it would have otherwise been.
And it’s incredibly short sighted to reject any solution that doesn’t solve a problem 100%. Partial solutions are good.
Canada has had 4 shootings at elementary and high schools in the better part of a century. To increase that, you would have to include colleges and universities, and that would only increase that number to nine.
Nine.
Meanwhile, America has almost 300 every year. And that’s only elementary and high schools.
The USA is neither the best country nor the worst country. It’s just one of the countries.
From all the comments, this is one of them
nor the worst country.
Sorry, but even anti-America types seem to believe in American exceptionalism anymore. It’s just that instead of believing we’re some shining city on the hill, they believe we’re The Great Satan™.
the American was not ready to hear what he heard
ITT Europeans tell us shit we already know about changes most of us want because they don’t understand gerrymandering and the electoral college
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Many, if not most, of us are jealous of other countries, though. Really, this is only a hard truth for the MAGA crowd, and even that is (I think) largely the fault of the nationalist propaganda that’s been shoveled at us since we were kids.
As an American, I agree with you, though - the US is in no way a ‘strong democracy’, or much of a democracy at all. It may once have been, but it certainly hasn’t been the case for a long time.
Back in 1780s the US constitution was an absolute marvel of progressiveness, but today, it is increadibly outdated and keeps the US political system back from making progress.
We’re like the 40-year-old still wearing his school jacket and talking about winning state.
Four touchdowns in a single game, go Bundy!
But we’re really a used car salesman trying to get you to finance a clapped out Nissan Altima with 128k miles, failing clear coat, and a dented bumper.
Believe me there’s no shortage of people who know that were not the shining city on the hill, unfortunately we’re drowned out by pandering patriotic country music and gunfire from mass shootings.
No shit, what American thinks either are true?
America, fuck yeah!
Has been a joke for like 30 years now
You haven’t met much of the rural population, have you?
This. Conservatives have poor media literacy. They don’t understand that they’re the punchline in stuff like that. They miss the point of stuff like RoboCop and Starship Troopers and unironically like those movies for the action and don’t even recognize the social commentary. They watched Team America and guffawed into their 24 packs of light beer at every shallow joke without recognizing that the jokes were intentionally shallow to point out what an idiot would think is a good joke. It’s like the TV show in Idiocracy. The real joke is below the surface.
I used to watch Colbert Report with my dad and it took him years to realize that it was a parody mocking him often personally. My dad was not a dumb man. The conservative bubble is hard to pop. Its like a Stockholm syndrome victim sympathizing with their attacker.
It blows my mind that when Colbert got his new job he had people coming up to him for years saying they liked his old show better.
They liked his old show, The Colbert Report, better. When it was clearly satire.
His old show was better. But I can’t imagine it working well any more, when reality is already so absurd.
No they were conservative guys who clearly didn’t understand it was satire
There are different dimensions of dumb.
Literally the opposite…
Where are you see conservatives talking about how great America has been under Bidnen?
Like, you put zero thinking into your comment, just like you assume the people you’re “dunking on” do.
You’re a different side of the same coin, that’s never meant opposites, you’re th same thing.
Just neither sid bis smart enough to figure it out, and both think only the other side is dumb
The irony is rooted in reality, much like the stereotypes.
I’ve received quite a few hostile reactions when critiquing the US, including idiocy like “FU we have a bigger military” from blowhards.
There are, unfortunately, enough bad apples to spoil the bushel.
Then why do you sound like you are
Because thats what you’ve been brainwashed to think the world wants, so thats what you hear
lol
This clip from the Newsroom sums it up perfectly.
Man I forgot how good that show was
A while ago I watched a live stream of CSPAN (I think?) where the House failed to form a government for several consecutive days. The way the entire process started with a prayer, and the many references to religion throughout, is just as disturbing as the personality cult around Stalin. That whole gang is fucked in the head.
100% accurate.
Despite his severe back problems, Luigi mangione is the only one of you who has a backbone.
That’s on education. We are plenty violent it’s just hard to know where to put it.
Ummm… Follow the money?
Gasoline prices are heavily subsidized in the US, the gas price you complain about is cheap compared to other countries.
Kinda disappointed in this thread, was hoping to find things that Americans on Lemmy aren’t ready to hear. Everything here seems like the usual complains that most Americans on Lemmy and even Reddit already aware of.
I don’t even know what that would be. Even the people kind of dog whistling for violence our oligarchs are all spot on and the user base here knows ot.
Because this thread is basically a circle jerk of the type:
USA bad, updoots to the left
We can’t understand how millions can vote for a senile, convicted sexual predator as president…
Dude half of us don’t understand it either.
It’s amazing what decades of defunding education will do when you mix it with a healthy dose of conservative talk show TV and social media algorithms.
I dunno, i understand it pretty well. Lack of education, lead paint/gasoline, nationalism, fascism, racism, sexism, economic disparity, lack of healthcare to deal with neural degeneracy common in trump supporters, and finally lower borth rates among the more educated. America is a shithole, and has been for the past 40 years at least. Until we finally grow a spine and start “adjusting”, things are going to continue getting worse until were all dead and the olligarchs own everything. Then theyll move on to fucking the rest of the world (harder than they already are)
Was with you to the last bit. What does it mean to “grow a spine and start ‘adjusting’”? Why is “adjusting” in quotes?
a metaphor which means “get our shit together”
Great, thanks. I want to know what OP actually wants us to do. I hate the situation we were in and I sure as shit didn’t vote for this asshole the first or second time, but other than voting and trying to survive what exactly do you want us to do to “get our shit together”.
Less than half apparently…
I guess it’s much less than half.
About 1/7 are less than voting age. Another 1/7 or so voted for the oompa loompa, and another 1/7 voted against. So actually, about half of the population just doesn’t vote because they’re a different type of idiot.
I do hate it here, for what it’s worth.
I wonder how differently the last US election would have played out if Murdoch had died before campaign season
Going to have a big party when he finally goes and joins Reagan in hell
Not very. His shitty propaganda machine is running itself by now.
How is you not understanding that the fault of the Americans?
The original question was not “what bad thing are Americans guilty of?”
Hah! Let’s make a list of the countries where leadership of that ilk has never existed. (We’ll just ignore that most of them did not allow elections.) Won’t take much paper.
Universal health care is better than whatever you have, for 99.9% of the people 99.9% of the time. And it always was. And always will be.
But, then who makes money ? It just doesn’t make sense !
We know. Even if some of us don’t want to admit it.
Yeah, anyone with a brain knows this… So, like, between 33-66% of the country.
This is absolutely true, but I do think that a lot of Americans are in fact ready to hear this. There is just a lot of money and power involved. And those with money and power don’t want to change it since it won’t improve their lives. There’s also religion involved. And many Republicans are religious and have been fooled into thinking that universal healthcare is all about allowing abortion.
