Their EBIL GOMMUNIST propaganda 🤮

Our smol bean capitalist education 🥰

Now cite every single other pact signed with Nazi Germany. Or are you just gonna talk about the one the Soviets did to buy time to be able to beat the Nazis?

Hey, I appreciate the disclaimer at the top, it shows you care about this stuff, which is already a pretty good step.

Other comrades already provided you with links about Tiananmen Square. The only other two I can link here are this video debunking the western narrative by Hakim and this article about the Arab league’s conclusion after investigating Xinjiang.

With all that said, I think your conclusion is wrong. You are completely right when you say that media outlets and most of the internet are owned up by a handful of billionaires that control the narrative in their favor, including YouTube. But that doesn’t mean everything produced on these outlets are lies or wrong. On YouTube for example, despite the clear disadvantage, there are communists there subverting the machine to educate people on these issues you are speaking about.

Furthermore, your vision of China comes from these same media outlets you already rightfully criticized. I invite you to rethink what you have been told about China, and any other current socialist countries for that matter, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos and DPRK.

You can lurk or ask around on Lemmygrad if you’re curious and want to learn further about that.

That is bullshit. If you are refering to Tiananmen Square, then I highly recommend you watch the channel Felipe Durante on YouTube. He’s a Brazilian living in China and he have talked about it several times, and even talks about how his colleagues talk about it.

This idea that China is some sort of dystopian hell where you cannot talk about this stuff is just a western lie.

Incredible comment!

I’ll also mention that the number of people affected by these interventions and wars are much higher then the death toll.

Laos was the most bombed country on Earth and both Vietnam and Laos, to this day, still teach kids how to identify bombs on the ground since a lot of them did not detonate and still cause harm and death.

In Vietnam, the US used Agent Orange, a chemical weapon that sticks to your skin, which to this day still causes birth defects.

North Korea was bombed to oblivion. US bombing campaign was so brutal, soldiers reported not having anywhere else left to bomb. I recommend this video to know more about the Korean War. (Just use youtube auto translate subtitles)

Also in US-backed dictatorships, the number of deaths might not be as big as in their direct interventions, but the sheer number of affected people, those being detained and tortured is absurd. Not to speak of the torture methods these dictatorships implemented in these countries, the torture people endured here in Brazil is gut wrenching.

Comrade Cowbee already listed the issues with Vaush that I’ll not repeat here.

That being said, I can’t really say much about Vaush’s ideological stance since I don’t watch him. What I can say is that I doubt he’s anywhere close to Hasan ideologically if going by how his fans act. Most of the times what I have seen is a pretty clear anticommunist stance from them that I cannot comprehend, specially when they love to laud Vaush as such a great leftist youtuber.

Unless you have have disagreements with Hasan

I do have some issues with Hasan actually, which I’ll use this comment to inform anyone that reads it after my recommendation. I don’t watch a lot of Hasan, I usually see bits and pieces of him here and there when youtube recommends him to me, and I mostly disagree with some of his instances on China, from the little I seen he’s mostly pro China, but I have seen some iffy stuff on his knowledge about the Uyghurs. I also don’t think his format of reaction/commentary to be that great either, specially since he likes to leave mid video a lot while it is still playing for his audience. I think his content could benefit a lot more if he actually paused on key points of the videos he reacts to to explain, debunk and or give context to the stuff said while also giving his opinion and stance on that as a Marxist. If you want an example of what that would be like, the brasilian youtuber João Carvalho I mentioned before does this, a lot, like to the point of even being a bit tiring sometimes, lol, but makes the content usually pretty transformative instead of just content theft.

That being said, Hasan is a very important figure in radicalizing and propagandizing for the left in the english speaking internet since he’s at the top of the left pipeline on youtube at least. I recommend this video by Yugopnik to learn more about this.

You DO have to read theory. Just because it is old doesn’t mean it’s wrong or outdated.

Also I’m not opposed to watching YouTube videos, but it shouldn’t be your only source for it, and recommending Vaush is a huge problem, don’t do that.

If anyone wants some actual good recommendations:

In english: Second Thought, Hakim, Yugopnik, Luna Oi, revolutionary_thot, azurescapegoat. There’s also Hasan, but he does commentary and not theory teaching or analisys or anything like that.

In portuguese: Ian Neves/História Pública, Laura Sabino, Jones Manoel, Tempero Drag/Rita von Hunty, João Carvalho.

There’s of course others, I’m just going by the ones I remember right now.

You are being presented with sources for the claims disproving you, but your anticommunism is clearly more important to you than engaging with actual rvidence.

No investigation, no right to speak.

You’re right, I should have been more specific in saying that current anti-intelectualism is deeply linked to capitalism and not that it is something that happens only in capitalism, my bad.

Also, I wasn’t referring to that as the eco-fascist rethoric, but rather to the commenters last phrase about how humans are a “failed experiment and a virus to the world”.

This is some eco-fascist ass rethoric. You’re not taking into account how all the issues you listed are only possible to exist in a capitalist society, where misinformation and anti-intelectualism is accepted and allowed to grow instead of directly addressed.

FOSS is political. Sure, there are right wingers in FOSS projects, but the nature of it is leftist.

Coward

Is a slave that kills their slaver in the wrong just because they used violence? Obviously not, they are justified, your reasoning is just dumb.

Least delusional ancap lmao

Real rich coming from an ancap. Anti-communism is fascism. You’re simply on the picture and you don’t link it.

Really telling how you feel the need to be anti-Communist on an antifascist meme. Specially when it was the “tankies” that destroyed fascism on WW2. But not surprising coming from a naz.ijust.works user

EDIT: I just realized feddit blocks both Lemmygrad and Hexbear, so this user cannot see my comment. If anyone wants to use/copy my comment or link directly to it, feel free to do so, I believe I provided enough evidence to debunk most of this user’s sourceless claims. It’s a shame some instances just block us and shows who they truly are.

E: any of you downvoters, feel free to correct me, I’d love to be wrong.

You throw a bunch of claims with zero source and wants to be taken seriously. At least give us the bare minimum before just spewing this much US State Department propaganda.

That being said, I will address some of your points, since someone else might stumble upon this and need an actual answer.

They don’t have CCP officials required by law to work at tech companies and disclose any and all data they acquire?

Keeping a close look on the companies on their country and keeping them on a short leash is good actually. China is not a capitalist hellhole like the US or most of the world, it is a socialist state where the rich does not control the government. Keeping them in check is the right thing to do given their current development level of socialism.

They’re not using Uyghur slaves in their factories?

That’s a new one, so far I have only heard about how they are being genocided. Which you can debunk with a little bit of research: Arab League’s visit to Xinjiang rejects Western accusations of ethnic genocide, religious persecution.

They’re not trying to literally erase Taiwan off the maps?

LMAO, no. Taiwan is part of China, why would China want to erase part of itself off the map? Even the US agrees. The only thing China wants is proper reunification with Taiwan.

They’re not still censoring information about their horrific pasts?

What “horrific past”? Be specific, this vague stance achieves nothing. If you’re talking about Tiananmen Square, here’s a good video about that: The Tiananmen Square “Massacre” Never Happened.

They’re not targeting, retaliating against and kidnapping protestors domestic and abroad?

Again, provide a damn source, I have no idea of what you’re talking about and it is something I never saw anyone claim before.

What I can do tho is bring into attention the names of a few people like Huey P. Newton being killed by the US government and Snowden having to seek asylum abroad after blowing the whistle on the US surveillance state for the world to see. And if that’s not enough, how about Pro-Palestinian protesters clash with US police on second night of DNC and New Report Details How Pro-Palestinian Protests Are Suppressed in Democratic Countries.

They’re not censoring virtually every US social website entirely from the entire country?

No they are not, Microsoft operates in China. Not only that, but they do not explicitly want to simply ban US sites on there, it’s a simple matter of national sovereignty where companies like Facebook and Google refuse to abide by Chinese law, so China simply developed all their tools in-house. Not only that, but Chinese citizens have access to VPNs and can easily access websites abroad that are not usually allowed in China.

Meanwhile the US banned Huawei and tried to ban TikTok when it became apparent they could not control it and that the people were seeing the US for what it truly is, a genocidal state funding Israel in it’s attempt to genocide the Palestinian people.

The last link I posted is a proxy on 12ft.io since The Intercept won’t allow to see the page without registering.

Incredible write up comrade. I was not aware of Einstein’s views on the Chinese and on Zionism.

I guess it depends on the country. Unfortunately here in Brasil it’s rather common to find people that believes in “cultural Marxism” and how our education system is Marxist or leftist or some shit. Which is total BS used to smear and drive people away from higher education.

Oh noes, the ebil gommunist seeseepee tankies!!!1!

How dare they stand for the truth that even the Arab League didn’t find China commiting genocide or oppressing the people of Xinjiang and disproving the now abandoned false narrative about Tiananmen Square.

No no no, your views should thoroughly align with the US state department. CHINA IS EBIL!!!