So, I saw a report from one of my users. They reported:
https://ponder.cat/post/1594852/1813842
For the reason:
Unreasonable fighting with everyone in every simple post
I think that’s ridiculous, so I talked with them about it. Posting private communications is frowned upon I guess, but long story short, they weren’t receptive. I’ve decided to ban the account.
IMO the general culture on Lemmy is that users are entitled to their free account and everyone needs to be careful and circumspect about limiting that entitlement in any way, but I don’t see it that way. I don’t think it’s a requirement for me to provide hosting space for anyone who wants to use my stuff as a jumping-off point for abuse of Lemmy’s systems, and isn’t apologetic or receptive when I talk with them about not doing that. The fact that it’s in service of harassing FlyingSquid in particular is just icing on the cake, since my perception is that people like to harass him apparently for no legitimate reason at all (with this as an example).
AITA?
Honestly, I think moderation + modlog + YPTB is a pretty good approximation of justice. It’s okay to hand people a good amount of power, as long as it’s aboveboard what they are doing with it, and people can raise the alarm and in extreme cases avoid the domain where they’re overstepping what they should be doing, if they’re overstepping what they should be doing.
I’ve actually noticed a substantial reduction in how much PTB there is, since this community came into being and became the default place to raise the issue and discuss it publicly if one of the moderators was out of line.
Overall yeah. I mean, even here the reports continue to flood in unabated about the admin practices of e.g. Lemmy.ml, to the point where db0 brought in a second mod to help deal with the drudgery of handling all the drama and mod reports. And people still don’t seem to know about Midwest.social. But this community does still help a lot:-).
Yeah. I feel like people are hip to lemmy.ml at this point, or every so often new people have to learn about it, but it’s fine. People can do weird stuff, as long as it’s generally understood that it’s weird and those are the people doing the weird stuff, and people can form their own reactions to it appropriately as they see fit.
To me, a lot more alarming is the little proliferation of communities on main instances “under the radar” with some of the propaganda accounts as moderators. I haven’t paid enough attention to know if it’s universal, but I know some of them have lemmy.ml-style “ban you for nice things about the Democrats” policies, but they are masquerading as normal politics communities, and getting quite a bit of traction since the last time I checked.
They’re all pretty near the overall front page of all communities on Lemmy. IDK what the answer is to that, but “let them have control of the conversation” doesn’t sound like it.
Weren’t you the one who just said “moderation + modlog + YPTB is a pretty good approximation of justice”? :-) I suppose here you mean that the admins should step in if they wanted to help control that? The first two, on LW, I doubt that they would.
I think it’s impossible to control the entire world. I don’t know what the best solution would be to control only part of it, though I do aim to do as well as I can in my particular corner of it.
Yeah. That’s why I was saying I have no idea what the right answer is. All the possible responses seem bad. I’m just commenting on the situation, my read on it, and my wish that some kind of good solution existed.