I just looked a bit more into this. There is a whole history of scrutinizing Nexon’s material and then screen capping single frames of animation to “prove” they are sneaking in this “misandrist” hand gesture. Looking at a back log of these this is on the level of those people presenting a single frame of someone like Beyonce on stage, and claiming what they captured clearly shows she is making satanic hand gestures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74
Moon Channel has a really good breakdown of how bad things are in terms of gender equality in South Korea.
Dudes doing this shit just ooze little dick energy… If you get so damned pissy about anyone pinching their fingers together, go jerk off to your podcasts and leave human beings alone.
making derogatory comments about people’s penises is not feminist
The point isn’t that someone has a tiny dick. The point is that someone is trying to overcompensate their toxic masculinity to account for it. Its like when someone speeds in a huge car in the middle of the city centre.
Well fair, but using toxic stereotypes, even ironically, doesn’t seem to be the way to dismantle that stereotype. It’s like if a woman made fun of a man for liking pegging, and I call her a whore. No one should value a person based on their genitals or how many people they sleep with.
Well that’s me sold on picking the bear
Yes, but that didn’t happen here.
Perhaps he’s objecting to having the alleged hand gesture referred to as feminist. A bit of a quibble, but not completely baseless.
Then again it may not be fair to claim that whenever feminists do hurtful things in the name of feminism, that it’s not real feminism. Feminism can do bad things too. Any philosophy can.
I feel like we’re kind of in the weeds here so I’m going to state my position openly. I’m a man who has been accused of having a small penis many times in life. I say this to communicate that I understand what it’s like to be accused of having a small penis and I get it.
Any man who thinks that a pinching motion is unquestionably making fun of them for having a small penis with
ourout confirmation, needs to get help. That motion is done all the time by all genders for any particular reason. Any man who causes harm because someone said he has a small penis also needs help. If you need help and you don’t get help and continue to behave in antisocial manner, then you deserve to be made fun of. At a certain point, antisocial behavior needs to be handled.If a large enough group of men are being antisocial because of a pinching motion. I think it’s fine for feminists to make the pinching motion intentionally to cause insult. For women to have to just deal with the antisocial behavior and ignore it is not acceptable.
My opinions would be the same if the genders would be reversed, so I feel like I’ve got a pretty solid argument here.
Yes, this was my point, the idea of a gesture for someone’s penis size is not feminist, it is derogatory/toxic masculinity.
But it was the way the characters hand was positioned! No commentary, just a picture in a trailer for a cutesy game
The response is ridiculous, but not surprising
Yeah, the response is absolutely unacceptable, I’m just commenting on the article using the term feminist incorrectly. Feminism is not about being derogatory against people with penises.
It is called misandry.
That’s a bit of a loaded term though. I do agree that it promotes toxic male stereotypes, yes.
The headline makes it seem like it’s just gamers but it’s more about the overall gender divide in South Korea. It’s a very interesting read. Men in South Korea feel like they’re struggling to get by and women wanting fairer treatment is being seen as wanting to make things even more difficult for men. It seems like it’s heading towards a tipping point.
One big issue is that military service is mandatory for men only so they feel they are being disadvantaged doing it while their women counterparts are getting degrees and established in the job market. That part seems like it could be solved by making it compulsary for both sexes like Israel does - assuming they want to keep up military service. I don’t see how they can stop given their neighbours.
Yet more evidence that G*mers should be bullied more.
Don’t bully me, I’ll come :(
Another episode in the series: “South Korea is a dystopian hellhole”
Another example: JaeJae was promoting chocolate and held a piece between two fingers - that was taken as clearly a sign of her hate for all men.
These guys know they don’t have to interact with shit they don’t like right? If a game has something you don’t like not only do you not have to play the game, but nobody is going to force you to do it. It’s not like they were gonna play it anyway.
I mean, have you encountered these Real Gamers™ before? They go out of their way to be enraged at this stuff. It’s all deliberate.
The best part about this particular situation is the graph you can draw that shows an inverse correlation between their rage and their junk volume.
Nothing more disarming than “wow! You sure seem personally impacted by that allegation, is that a reaction that’s happening often from lovers, friends or very close family members?”
Rage is the only thing that makes them feel :<
Sad pathetic lives of socially separated and economically distraught young adults finding joy in the worst of humans ;(
That’s not exclusive to Real Gamers™
And most of them truly don’t play them, just parroting what someone told them or even straight up making shit up about what the game contains.
Perhaps a) social media should not be anonymous and b) death threats should be illegal. I know I’m stating super obvious things here but given how this is still a thing…
a) social media should not be anonymous
I believe anonymous social media can work but only up to a certain size. Current system opens up societies to fabricated influence campaigns by the oligarchs, domestic and foreign state agencies, all kinds of organised whackos and just regular assholes with zero accountability. Whole setup is dying from a thousand cuts and at current going rate it doesn’t have much time left.
call me a racist but Korea is a cesspool
Most countries in the world suffer from deeply entrenched misogyny.
and they’re all cesspools
hi a_racist, I’m dad
