James Cameron shared on Friday that the upcoming “Avatar: Fire and Ash,” set to release Dec. 19, 2025, will be even longer than its predecessor "The Way Of Water."

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26492957

James Cameron shared on Friday that the upcoming “Avatar: Fire and Ash,” set to release Dec. 19, 2025, will be even longer than its predecessor “The Way Of Water.”

  • negativeyoda@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    5 hours ago

    Christ. The last one was a slog to get through. I got to the point where I was fast forwarding through action scenes because it dragged and I was so sick of it

  • endeavor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    25·
    2 days ago

    I mean sure whatever but at the end of the day you’re just remaking pocahontas poorly for the third time.

    • Steve@communick.newsEnglish
      17·
      2 days ago

      People keep saying this kind of thing, without understanding there are only a couple dozen stories. Literally, every good story is a version of something else. Maybe at best, a mash up of a couple.

      Edit: here is a decent page that covers them all.

      • TheMagicRat@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        Sure, but you can subvert archetypes or mix different types to make new stories. If you’re going to follow one of the archetypes, you need to have good dialogue, character development, visuals, etc.

        • Steve@communick.newsEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          Plot and story are overrated.
          If that’s what really made a movie, a synopsis would be just as good. And way cheaper to make.

      • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        I bet Pocahontas itself is also a version of something older, but I’m not versed enough in classical literature to know what it might be.

  • makeshiftreaper@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    2 days ago

    I generally believe most movies should be shorter and that there’s a lot of room for addition by subtraction. That said, if a movie earns its runtime then I don’t think there’s an upper limit to how long it can be. Lawrence of Arabia is 3 hours and 45 minutes and it’s incredible, I don’t think I’d cut anything in it besides the long black intro screen which is a relic of its time. I would say justifying that run time gets exponentially harder past a certain point.

    With Way of Water sitting at 3 hours and 12 minutes I do think Avatar 3 needs an intermission if it’s going to be longer. Asking people to sit and be fully engaged for 3 and a half hours is a big ask and having a chance to go to the bathroom, get snacks, stretch your legs, etc is needed for something that massive

    • TheMagicRat@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      2 hours ago

      I think there’s been a problem with editing in Hollywood for quite a long time now. Many movies are much longer than they need to. A recent example is Anora, which could have easily trimmed 20-30 minutes of its runtime without losing any plot or character development.

    • Xavienth@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Part of me wonders what would happen if you released a movie in two parts at the same time. If it were direct to streaming, that would essentially just be a mini (micro?) series. But in theaters… I’m not sure that sort of thing has been done

            • Xavienth@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              1·
              1 day ago

              I’m not saying you’re wrong to believe that people would be upset, perceiving being double charged, I’m just pointing out that if people were upset, it would be irrational, and gave the example of a two-parter with a normal release schedule to explain why.

  • Balthazar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    2 days ago

    Don’t particularly care about the length. Just make it better than the last one, because it fell a long way down from the first one.