Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux’s permission prompts

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      The version on flathub (what the steam deck uses for it’s app store) has not been updated to support this quite yet.

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    I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it’s been broken so long. Like, years long.

    It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.

    (In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)

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      I saw something from a discord dev (can’t find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they’d have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they’d probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.

      I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn’t really stabilized enough for them to be interested.

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      convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it’s been broken so long. Like, years long.

      Heh. There’s a ticket with Splunk. It’s a simple request: do the 30 sec of work to let us install your software rpm from a proper yum repo.

      They can’t figure out how.

      They won’t ask.

      It’s 12 years old now.

      The ticket for them to do a trivial exercise with tools twice as old, is now a tween. It can ride the bus on its own. I think it can get a Facebook account. Maybe.

      We should get one for it.

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      It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.

      Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don’t give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won’t fix it.

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      It was 100% because the existing Electron version they were using was ancient, a giant pain in the ass to update, and represents exactly zero revenue for them so they hadn’t bothered putting anyone on fixing it. Every tech company has the ticking time bomb in the corner like that.

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      You give them too much credit. It’s just shitty, that’s it.

      Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There’s just no real alternative unfortunately.

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          If Twitter is any indication, Discord would have to fuck up big, and for a long time for people to switch.

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          There is an alternative people have used before discord came, it is called teamspeak. Is still around as well, but works more like a federated system since everyone has to set up and host their own server for people to use.

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            We would have to sit down and actually think what an opensource solution can achieve and how it gets traction. Also from the get go it should be clear that there will be no feature parity between it and discord. If it was me, I would cut out the whole chatroom functionality, leave private messaging in, use threaded conversations as a standard and but a decent videocall system on top. But this would be my version of it, other people have other needs.

            For the video call system you would not have to reinvent the wheel, use something existing like Jitsi (?) or alternatives. Then you would

            Maybe the best bet is to look at matrix and wrench out the chatroom focus and replace it with threads?

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            I wouldn’t say discord is either of those things

            They need to limit server sizes, get rid of community searching, and add #XXXX to the end of usernames before we can pretend that

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              Wouldn’t limiting server sizes and getting rid of community searching be removing features? Why would anyone want that?

              And Discord used to have #XXXX at the end of usernames.

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                Why would anyone want that?

                1 they aren’t pedos

                2 they want an app to talk to their friends with

                3 they don’t want to be victims of misinformation campaigns

                And Discord used to have #XXXX at the end of usernames.

                Yeah it was better, it meant if you were being stalked you could just have the numbers changed. Now you need a completely different alias with the only purpose to be discouraging victims from getting help

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                  1- What does that have to do with anything?

                  2- Then make a private server for just your friends.

                  3- Then make a private server for just your friends.

                  And no, it wasn’t better. Just… different.

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          I so wish there was matrix protocol for voice rooms and a good reference implementation but sadly there are neither

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            How long has it been since you used element/matrix? Serious question because the new element call stack is now finally released in element stable, as of a few patches ago. (It still only shows up as the “video rooms” feature that u have to enable in the labs/beta settings)

            Its much cleaner than before and properly supports screensharing, adjusting individual user volumes and more. The previous jitsi based voice rooms were somewhat lacking i admit but they have been functional for years.

            That was the last thing that kind of kept me from fully endorsing matrix but now it does all that really important stuff. The new mobile ElementX client also supports the new call system but its overall lacking compared to the normal mobile client which does not support it.

            But for desktop use i dont have any complains anymore about matrix really.

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        It doesn’t really matter if they do or don’t. What matters is that they can change their TOS at any time, they keep an archive of all historical data, and you will have pretty much no recourse no matter what they decide to do with it in the future.

        Who knows what will happen to Discord in five or ten years?

        They might get bought by a narcissistic billionaire.

        They might sell all their data to Google for training AI.

        They might go bankrupt and sell off their assets to the highest bidder.

        They might have an IPO and begin the usual value extraction at the expense of their users.

        I know, I know…crazy ideas, right? When has anything like that ever happened?!

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          i think you’re totally right, i just dont like people saying theyre doing it right now.

          Frankly i think we should use matrix instead, but it just isnt good enough yet

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    Oh my fuck, finally. Good lord Discord, only took you eons to get that working with Wayland after you broke it.

    I get that there’s other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.

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        Not if I want calling, video chat, screen sharing and role based chat rooms all in the same place. I’ve explored this, but it just isn’t feature complete enough at the moment. I’d definitely describe myself as a Discord power user and Matrix just doesn’t manage it.

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          Calls and video chats works just fine in matrix and client like element allow you to integrate other services if you don’t like the default ones.

          I’d definitely describe myself as a Discord power user

          You sound a lot like someone who use windows. We are on a linux sub.

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            I am a Linux user. Bizarre assumption to make given my excitement over a Wayland specific Discord feature. But I don’t have any actual qualms with how Discord implements its own services. Matrix just doesn’t fit the bill for me. If you enjoy it, and it suits your needs then all the power to you. It just isn’t what works for me.