The conversations are amazing

    • Limonene@lemmy.world
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      I’ve been to China. VPN access requires jumping through insane hoops and disguising your traffic as different traffic. Tor is blocked. Most commercial VPNs are IP blocked. HTTPS proxy or HTTP proxy over SSH tunnel gets blocked very quickly due to traffic analysis.

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        You’re also not, presumably, a Chinese citizen, who know better how their own internet works. Why would you immediately jump to doing what you know?

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      uh obviously? do you not understand the distinction between corporate and government mandates? I can explain it if you need me to because its kind of critical to this whole conversation. and if you do understand the difference, then wtf is your point.

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        My point is that there is no such thing as a truly “free” internet, whether it be by corporations or governments. You might as well be defending unicorns.

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          lol, there absolutely is. you just dont partake in it. pray tell me what precisely am I prevented from doing on the internet in my US hellscape, that isnt illegal in general internet not withstanding, which you think should be allowed.