Muslim women are only allowed to expose their face and hands according to the traditional understanding, and even the face is a lot according to some who order women to cover the cover the face as well. Many sheikhs become angry if a few strand of hair get exposed.
But Christian women don’t have such strict, rigid dress code for them, as you can see in the right picture, dress like this where they don’t cover their arms, legs, head, neck would be accepted as modest by their Churches. People on this subreddit won’t find any immodesty in them either, but a lot of Mainstream Muslims surely do.
What is the reason?
Fundamentalism. If you look at photos of women in Iran in the 1970s, they look like the photo on the right for example.
There is currently a fundamentalist Christianity movement pushing for subservient women in the US.
Anti-communism. Most countries in the mid east were much more progressive until the 60s or 70s, when the west started to encourage religious radicals to counter soviet influence.
But as somebody else said, this is not mainstream islam!
It looks like Islamic socialism is still active, which is hopeful. I wonder if it’ll gain more ground as the US empire crumbles
Reactionary resistance to western imperialism, colonialism, occupation, and supremacy. That and the US propping up fundamentalist groups like ISIS and supporting fundamentalist client states like Saudi Arabia. The material conditions of the MENA region have been violently crippled by Western forces for hegemonic control of the region and resources.
Franz Fanon - A Dying Colonialism
We have seen that on the level of individuals the colonial strategy of destructuring Algerian society very quickly came to assign a prominent place to the Algerian woman. The colonialist’s relentlessness, his methods of struggle were bound to give rise to reactionary forms of behavior on the part of the colonized. In the face of the violence of the occupier, the colonized found himself defining a principled position with respect to a formerly inert element of the native cultural configuration. It was the colonialist’s frenzy to unveil the Algerian woman, it was his gamble on winning the battle of the veil at whatever cost, that were to provoke the native’s bristling resistance. The deliberately aggressive intentions of the colonialist with respect to the haïk gave a new life to this dead element of the Algerian cultural stock—dead because stabilized, without any progressive change in form or color. We here recognize one of the laws of the psychology of colonization. In an initial phase, it is the action, the plans of the occupier that determine the centers of resistance around which a people’s will to survive becomes organized.
Behind these psychological reactions, beneath this immediate and almost unanimous response, we again see the overall attitude of rejection of the values of the occupier, even if these values objectively be worth choosing. It is because they fail to grasp this intellectual reality, this characteristic feature (the famous sensitivity of the colonized), that the colonizers rage at always “doing them good in spite of themselves.” Colonialism wants everything to come from it. But the dominant psychological feature of the colonized is to withdraw before any invitation of the conqueror’s. In organizing the famous cavalcade of May 13th, colonialism has obliged Algerian society to go back to methods of struggle already outmoded. In a certain sense, the different ceremonies have caused a turning back, a regression.
I’m an atheist, but What you consider “mainstream” is a little bit wrong in my opinion. I don’t know if there’s been a world wide study on the percentage of women in each religion that wear what we would call restrictive, but it isn’t that different. Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world and when you think of Indonesian women restrictive clothing and way of life, doesn’t come across as more draconian than devout Catholic women in my Hispanic area. I think this is more a case of which group gets more attention in our bubbles. Western nations just can’t stop focusing on what’s going on in Muslim dominated areas because of oil and holy locations. Casting them as somehow backwards is how we justify bombings and occupations.
Edit: Also do we just ignore how Orthodox women be dressing?
Most common reasoning for any religious related question is “it was this way for centuries so it should be this way further” or “main book demands/explains it this way”.
Also major crisis usually makes people return to fundamentalist views. Many Islam based societies were well on their way to reform and improvement, but then the west kinda went and bombed the shit out of them to get their natural resources. I think its fair to largely attribute stagnation in Islams progress towards womens rights to the wars and bombings funded by the US and Russia.
That doesnt excuse their treatment of women, but it might explain it to a degree. The more peaceful and fair the environment, the less religeous people become. The less religeous people become, the better they treat women and people of other beliefs.
this is a hijab, what’s worn by most “mainstream” women of the faith.is this comm going to be a bunch of
sealioning lol?don’t worry, I’ll see myself out
As someone already stated above feminism and the work of thousands of women over the centuries has done most of the work. But I think it’s diversity as well, insular cult mentality does not survive long when exposed to freedom. And the christians are always running around proselytizing, exposing themselves to pagan ways.
It’s also that they just don’t read or follow the Bible really most of western christianity is just “good vibes”
Here is 1 Corinthians 3-6
“But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,[a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.”
Idk man. Why are of the Star Wars movies so different despite all being from the same trilogy of trilogies?
Why are of the Star Wars movies so different despite all being from the same trilogy of trilogies?
Well said
Because all religions are wrong and should be abolished
Irrational people coming up with irrational ideas. Crazy am I right?
Religions, am I right?
Feminism
