Lots of people on Lemmy really dislike AI’s current implementations and use cases.

I’m trying to understand what people would want to be happening right now.

Destroy gen AI? Implement laws? Hoping all companies use it for altruistic purposes to help all of mankind?

Thanks for the discourse. Please keep it civil, but happy to be your punching bag.

  • Libra00@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Are you not aware that Google also runs on giant data centers that eat enormous amounts of power too?

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        3 hours ago

        Per: https://www.rwdigital.ca/blog/how-much-energy-do-google-search-and-chatgpt-use/

        Google search currently uses 1.05GWh/day. ChatGPT currently uses 621.4MWh/day

        The per-entry cost for google is about 10% of what it is for GPT but it gets used quite a lot more. So for one user ‘just use google’ is fine, but since are making proscriptions for all of society here we should consider that there are ~300 million cars in the US, even if they were all honda civics they would still burn a shitload of gas and create a shitload of fossil fuel emissions. All I’m saying if the goal is to reduce emissions we should look at the big picture, which will let you understand that taking the bus will do you a lot better than trading in your F-150 for a Civic.

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          3 hours ago

          Google search currently uses 1.05GWh/day. ChatGPT currently uses 621.4MWh/day

          And oranges are orange

          It doesn’t matter what the totals are when people are talking about one or the other for a single use.

          Less people commute to work on private jets than buses, are you gonna say jets are fine and buses are the issue?

          Because that’s where your logic ends up

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      4 hours ago

      Multiple things can be bad at the same time, they don’t all need to be listed every time any one bad thing is mentioned.

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        4 hours ago

        I wasn’t listing other bad things, this is not a whataboutism, this was a specific criticism of telling people not to use one thing because it uses a ton of power/water when the thing they’re telling people to use instead also uses a ton of power/water.

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          Yeah, you’re right. I think I misread your/their comment initially or something. Sorry about that.

          And ai is in search engines now too, so even if asking chatfuckinggpt uses more water than google searching something used to, google now has its own additional fresh water resource depletor to insert unwanted ai into whatever you look up.

          We’re fucked.

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            3 hours ago

            Fair enough.

            Yeah, the intergration of AI with chat will just make it eat even more power, of course.