No need to name names or sources.

Mine has to be some dude that insisted that advertising is a “30,000 year old technology”

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    Outside of a purely descriptive term of the biological differences between the sexes, that is derogatory.

    It is often used to dehumanize women, as the term is mostly used when talking about animals.

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      So you didn’t look at the

      abundant evidence here (search females), in classifieds, personals & online equivalents (eg, ads that limit eligibility to females), or text corpus searches revealing that the noun female referring to humans is often non-derogatory

      did you?

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        Why would I?

        You cite no source for what you write as if it was fact.

        The fact that you try to make it look like scientific language tells me that you actually know why the term is derogatory, and you doubling down makes me think you argue in bad faith.

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          Confirmed: couldn’t even search females in lemmy. Disregards common classified ads. Claims “bad faith” while ignoring evidence in bad faith.

          Why would I?

          Because the claim is empirical, and yours violates plain observation?

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              Statistics aren’t needed to reject an overgeneralization. On the contrary, you would need something like statistical generalization: you’re (over)generalizing the meaning of a word. Any counterexamples suffice to defeat a bad generalization, since no sample should contradict a true generalization: look it up or take introductory logic.

              You’re overgeneralizing, and only asserting your claim doesn’t begin to meet the burden to support that. In contrast, I’ve indicated evidence exists & where it’s readily found, which you ignore. Ignoring evidence that doesn’t suit you is a fallacy (often committed in bad faith).

              The fact remains that counterexamples to your claim are common, which wouldn’t be expected if the conventional meaning were derogatory.

              Here’s an example quoting a story in the news:

              “What if I would have been armed,” she said. “You’re breaking in. What am I supposed to think? My initial thought was we were being robbed—that my daughters, being females, were being kidnapped. You have guns pointed in our faces. Can you just reprogram yourself and see us as humans, as women? A little bit of mercy. […]"

              So your claim is that by referring to her daughters as females, this mother is insulting them?

              While I might be able to argue in “bad faith”, the unsolicited speech productions of the community do not. Do you want to ignore more examples?

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                  Counterexamples don’t require studies: learn logic.

                  Refuting the claim “men are generally bald” merely requires the existence of a few men who aren’t. You’re claiming “female is a derogatory noun to humans”: as shown it isn’t. Can you explain what the mother quoted in the news is saying about her daughters if your claim about female is true? No, your claim fails.

                  Deny plain observation all you want: your claim is false.

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                    You have yet to show that it isn’t derogatory, so far you just have your own oppinion.

                    Thus you are wrong.

                    Now I do see that you are registered at lemmynsfw.com, generally I would not hold your instance against you if you make a resonable argument in good faith, but based on your creepy attitude and fixation with derogatory/demeaning terms combined with your instance of choice tells me that this is a kink, which is fine if done with consent, but you are pushing your kink on others outside of spaces where it is accepted.