I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support

People who say ‘cant wait for steamOS to come out so that I can move to it’ is also very similar

They never will try Linux, even if what they want comes true

They won’t do it, whether they just fear change or think it’ll break stuff or they can’t bother

And I’m not going to lie, I don’t hate them or debate with them for it, I just hate the bold lies they tell just to get with the crowd

“Fuck you Microsoft, I’m moving to Linux” says the individual that would never move if they haven’t already

Frankly, I probably wouldn’t move either if Windows didn’t permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers, and reinstalling windows wasn’t harder than installing Linux, fucking hell

Either way, these people kick up hype for a Linux that will be so much bigger but they never arrive

Maybe they will, due in fucking 2028 or something when they invent a really easy way to use built in Linux tools to move your files from NTFS to Linux and then when you launch steam you have a perfect library of Linux compatible games that are as good or better than windows

And don’t lie, even now with 80% compatibility it feels more like 60%, whether because it depends on the system one runs or because the performance drops just make it not worth it…

At least don’t lie that you’ll move to Linux at a goal post that you’ll just move whenever you get close, maybe say that you’ll move to Linux when you finally get a new pc with a new disk or something?

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    If it doesnt work on Linux I aint buying. Fucking manchilds without self respect.

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    Im ngl, I feel like its posts like these that make people dislike Linux users. Expecting every game that you own to run perfectly isn’t some insane requirement, its totally reasonable lol. I get that its kinda frustrating people won’t ever switch, but lets be real, the only way Linux is actually going to gain new users is by having it come pre-installed on devices. Look at the increased Linux use because it’s the default OS on the steamdeck. It just needs to be the default on more devices, and be solid enough that people don’t even notice they’re not on Windows. The amount of people who will actually go out of there way to switch their OS is so negligible it may as well not even count. So who cares about these people who will never switch, because they probably won’t matter much in the end anyway.

    –And I say this as someone who has been on Linux full time for a little over a year now.

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      Lol, most games I own don’t run on windows without substantial tweaks and compatibility patches. Even then often games are buggy.

      A game with texture issues on windows is badly made, a game with texture issues on linux is a game that doesn’t run properly on linux /shrug

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      it is insane, because it doesn’t even fucking apply to any version of windows, it’s bog standard for older windows games to just shit themselves in various ways.

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    Switching from Windows to Linux was a refreshing experience. I’ve never encountered any problems running Windows games on Linux.

    The only thing I miss is ShareX.

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    I can understand if the game they play is online and it has an anti-cheat that makes it uncompatible with Linux. (Mainly game devs not allowing Linux to work). Otherwise, my experince with gaming on Linux has been pretty good

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    If the game doesn’t run on Linux, there’s a good chance it’s using a rootkit and should not be installed on windows either.

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      The game Smalland crashes Linux so hard, and I am tired of trying every possible launch option command and suggestion to get it running. I don’t know if it uses a root kit but it does something that causes the whole desktop to freeze.

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          I thought so too, which is why I got it, but I have tried every suggestion in the protondb site and the steam forums and only got it to load the game one time before crashing the whole system, and this is running fedora 41, it freezes everything as soon as it loads. I’m sure I could check logs and prob try it again currently as I see proton-ge was recently updated, but I just moved on to a better game.

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            Then I’m sorry about your experience. Maybe it has something to do with the versions of programs/libraries specifically on Fedor’s distribution. If I have the opportunity, I could try to run this game, but I have Arch linux.

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              Hey thanks for your concern, I have been thinking of other distros but so far everything has been running fine on Fedora, if it comes about that a game I really enjoy becomes unplayable then I will start checking out Arch.

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    You ever seen this XKCD about “today’s 10,000?”

    Your rant reminds me of that because I think you’ve got this idea in your head that everyone in life is at the same point in their journey as you are now. Linux has been on the edge of my mind for awhile but I’m a really busy working person and learning a new operating system seems daunting when you don’t have the experience.

    Then I bought a Steamdeck last year and a switch flipped in my head; I was like hey this gaming on Linux and it looks like it is actually doable. Then a few weeks back a misfortune resulted in Windows getting nuked on my gaming PC and I had some free time so installed Linux for the first time and started trying to figure stuff out.

    My point is that there are people who are truthfully interested but overwhelmed with life or it’s just not as high a priority to them so it hasn’t happened yet but that doesn’t mean that it won’t happen. This approach of “they would have done it by now if they were going to” just seems silly to me. People have lives and we are all at different places in our journey.

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    I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support

    Why do you give a shit what os others use?

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      Because of bandwagon effect. The more people use linux, then even more will. And itll get more support from software and hardware developers. And the world will be more free, safe, and not controlled by a big corp.

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      Frankly I started to hold Linux like it was a religion, but beyond that admission it’s not that I care about them but them constantly saying shit like so which they know they don’t actually believe in or will do

      Imagine advocating for a protest just for you to not even show up

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        I’ve been playing with linux since the mid 90s. I have it on majority of my devices, but my main is still running windows 10. Exactly because it doesn’t run everything I need 100%, nor do I enjoy spending hours trying to get things to work anymore.

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      There’s precisely one reason I care, to increase compatibility with linux.

      Once anticheat works perfectly on linux, I’ll completely stop caring what other people do. Everything else will come with time.

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        I also don’t really care about more people switching to Linux, except for the fact that it’s gonna force developers to make their games run on Linux.

        There’ll also be some downsides with more people using linux, like more viruses…

        In a way, I’d focus more on the fact that it would be cool if more people used Linux on phones instead of ios/Android. That could make it easier to run at one point…

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    “I want to be able to use my expensive hardware for the reason I purchased it in the first place” seems like a pretty solid argument to me.

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      This is where I am. There are a lot of fancy features that modern graphics cards have that I want to make sure work with all my AAA titles. I have a Linux laptop for near everything that isn’t a game.

      I know there’s a lot of people on Lemmy that feel differently, but I am a bit of a bleeding edge graphics whore. I like my raytracing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          Not sure what the situation is on the NVIDIA side, but Mesa’s raytracing performance is… lacking. Don’t get me wrong; it’s amazing that it works as well as it does, but even with a high-end card it’s not the best experience. I don’t personally care much about RT, but if I were more into it I would probably consider setting up a Windows dual-boot.

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            Not sure what the situation is on the NVIDIA side

            Nvidia’s proprietary Linux drivers are effectively equal to their Windows drivers

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            Ah, I see. My understanding is that AMD’s raytracing is just subpar compared to Nvidia, no matter what system you’re using, so I dunno what positive performance changes you’d see either way.

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    Frankly, I probably wouldn’t move either if Windows didn’t permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers

    I think this might be colouring your expectations a bit, and you might be projecting your experiences on to others.

    I’ve said for years that it was gaming that was holding me back from running Linux full time. I don’t do a huge amount of gaming, but it is important to me, so for many years it was a deal breaker.

    Now, gaming is good enough, even though it’s not perfect, and I moved to linux full time around 9 months ago.

    People aren’t “lying”. They just have different priorities to you…

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      Agreed. I also moved within the last year. I did it in response to how horrible windows 11 looks though. Win 10 was bad enough id been flirting with the idea and when i saw ads built in to 11 it pushed me over the tipping point.

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    This is an terrible take. You must have switched the moment you became aware of Linux, had no qualms or before the switch, didn’t mull it over even a little bit.

    Please go back in time to when you weren’t using Linux yet, and direct this rant at yourself and see how you like it.

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      At the time I wasn’t thinking of switching my pc over to Linux, so it wouldn’t have been hypocrisy on my part

      I had Linux installed on a laptop before and it ran well even in the past before all the compatibility improvements

      After that the reinstall was fast and moving files over was easy

      The only thing that would’ve made me mad about this post is that I wouldn’t shut the fuck up because I was raving too much, but now I’ve got interest and a whole lot of annoyance over so-called anti-establishmentarianists who rather talk Linux for months on end with no actual plan of moving even though they talk as if they have one, that fucking ticks me off, and I feel as if it’s everywhere because people wanna fit in

      Besides, it’s Lemmy and it’s online, it’s a person’s choice to read my rant and click on the post, thankfully it isn’t a square where I’m screaming like a mad man, haha

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        This reminds me when I was a teenager, it’s sort of a tradition to call anyone who got into $THING after you did a poser, while the older kids make fun of you for the same reason. This establishes the hacking order. Since I reckon I’m the elder in this situation, I’ll do this to you now: Stop being a poser, you don’t want to scare away any cool grown-ups do you?

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            whole lot of annoyance over so-called anti-establishmentarianists who rather talk Linux for months on end with no actual plan of moving even though they talk as if they have one, that fucking ticks me off, and I feel as if it’s everywhere because people wanna fit in

            Yeah you’re keeping it real, fucking posers amiright? You’re sooo mad at all these phonies just trying to fit in.

            I seriously hope you’re just a teenager because that means you’re going to grow out of this phase, otherwise this is just sad.

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    “Fuck you Microsoft, I’m moving to Linux” says the individual that would never move if they haven’t already

    I posted this in a comment somewhere on Lemmy about a month before I moved. It took me a while because I have a chronic illness, a disability, and the whole process takes a lot of sitting at my desk which is quite hard on my body.

    Not everyone’s circumstances are the same. I get the sentiment you’re trying to share but cut people some slack…

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    It’s mainly Linux enthusiasts who evangelize other people to use it. So if others don’t want to move to Linux, let them be.

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    I refuse to let gaming preferences dictate my choice of operating system. I choose my OS first—Linux—because I demand full ownership of my computing environment. If an entity can extract data without your knowledge or control updates, shutdowns, or reboots against your will, they own your machine—not you. With Linux, I own my system entirely. I decide when updates happen, I control what data—if any—leaves my computer, and nothing happens without my explicit consent. My computer works for me, not someone else.