A red button. Image says: ‘Would you press the button?’ [results of pressing the button:] there exists a pill that makes your disability a LOT less debilitating BUT it’s near-impossible to get because the non-disabled enjoy taking the pill for fun and the government doesn’t want them to.

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    15 hours ago

    What’s recreational about it?

    “Oh boy! I feel amazing! I can get out of bed in the night without falling over my floordrobe!”

    Yeah, sure… Super fun.

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      For people with ADHD, some ADHD medication has a calming & focusing effect, that same medication has an energizing and euphoric for some (not all) neurotypical people, while also increasing their focus at the same time.

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    It’s a prescription drug like any other, if u take it while diagnosed it’ll js make you normal, but if you take it recreationally it’ll act like a drug with all the side-effects.

    If you take morphine for example, when in a fuckton of pain, it’ll get rid of your pain, but if you take it recreationally it’ll work like any other recreational drug does. It’s obviously very simplified ik, and I could’ve worded it better but it gets my point across.

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    because the non-disabled enjoy taking the pill for fun

    How terrible!!! But what specific horrible drug is this? so many fun illegal ones.

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    Neurotypical people: Can’t wait to party!

    flicker: The laundry ain’t gonna do itself and I’m not allowed to do it without drugs soooo…

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    I mean…I guess there would be a stigma attached, but idk anyone who’s a loser enough to really care. Adderall is great for people with debilitating ADHD, and it’s also wonderful as a party drug with relatively few negative side effects (if not abused).

    People need to be less dumb, lose the stigma, open up the supply & legalize it…as somebody else said an “adult” with $20 can go buy a handle (1.75L) of alcohol/liquid death with no guard rails, so what exactly are we so scared of, here? People getting the drugs they need? People more alert & honed in at their job? People having lots of fun at a party?! Oh my god, we simply can’t have that. 🙄

    Don’t be dumb. Just don’t be dumb, yes, it really is that simple. Legalization will inevitably bring about regulation & moderation.

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        Nah. Lack of regulations handles that just as well. They can die from stupidity, I don’t care, we need to make stupid fatal again, there’s no way a lot of these mouth breathing fucks could have survived in the wild.

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            I’m not saying there would not be a difficult adjustment period…Oh wait. Are you suggesting a more direct method?

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        Doctor’s who don’t suck at treating anything that requires controlled substances are few and far between. Many are ignorant about the actual laws governing scheduled substances so they just try to minimize prescribing any even if it means worse care for the patient.

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        No, that does not apply to you. You are not the one being critical, imposing a stigma onto others, and refusing care. You are the victim or affected party, not the aggressor causing problems.

        It’s like saying…people that mug others on the streets & steal their money are real losers. They should make their own money. I’m not pointing to the person they rob & call them losers. ¯\(°_o)/¯

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            As someone who was denied treatment for my ADHD because I am able to hold a job (diagnosed late in life) I’m curious: why on earth would doctors deny treatment the other way around too? That sounds so illogical.

            If I’m intruding too much - just dont reply, I understand.

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              I was denied treatment for ADHD too, because I have a bachelor’s! Old psych said even a high school diploma is impossible for ADHD folks. Glad I was able to switch to a new psych who diagnosed me at 27.

              Ok so I have autoimmune hyperthyroidism. This, among other things, gives me low blood pressure and a high heart rate. By ‘refusing to treat me’ I mostly mean that doctors have immediately jumped to the conclusion that my ADHD meds are the one and only cause, refusing further tests. Saying I need to go off the meds and if the symptoms persist I should come back. Even though I know and told them that I’ve had these symptoms for years, and have only been on these meds for half a year. This shows up in my file. I’ve also had a GP refuse to renew my prescription because he, too, thought I couldnt possibly have adhd since I’m educated and employed. I’ve also repeatedly felt like doctors think I’m just drug seeking instead of in actual need of these meds. Like, for example, being told that it’s irresponsible that I take them by a different GP.

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        That…that never happened did it Homer? (Like for FFS they can see why you have a prescription and it’s not like they’ve never heard of ADD)

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      …ignoring that going from disabled to average would feel like gaining superpowers.

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    For me it’s, “… But you hate the way the medicine makes you feel so you refuse to take it despite knowing it would make many aspects of your life more manageable.”

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      Common problem with a lot of meds, including antidepressants and antipsychotics. I knew someone who didn’t want to take their meds because it made them fat, and that was to counteract delusions and paranoia from schizophrenia. It’s been decades, so I think the meds are better but the point is, yeah, lots of people have to pick and even if the side effects are less bad, you’re actively having to choose to cause that to yourself.

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      I wish methylphenidate didn’t make me feel like my heart is about to explode if I take it for more than 4 days in a row

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      I am right there with you too. I wish any of the medication options worked for me.

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    … “and the government doesn’t want them to”?
    The last part kinda doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    If the government doesn’t want the non-disabled to enjoy taking that for fun, how does that contribute to the problem? It could have made sense if it said “even though” instead of “and”, but the way it is, it’s just confusing.

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      I looked at it like marijuana. Government doesnt want you to use it so its hard to get even though it can help with chronic pain and nausea and depression.

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      Seems to make sense to me. The “and the government doesn’t want them to” part is the explanation for why it is nearly impossible to get.

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      Non disabled people enjoying the drug, isn’t what makes the drug hard to get. The drug is hard to get because the government tries to keep it away from people.

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            Right now it’s heavily regulated for medical use. Since drug dealers like to put fent in drugs, so when someone overdoses, they think it’s strong stuff. Innocent users who buy it for medical uses will die, since others will use fent anyway.

            Ok, maybe I’m too cynical, and it will be fine. But I did see the world descend into hell, of course I do.

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      Drugs are much cheaper to produce then they are sold as.

      Just produce enough for everyone that wants them but restrict it to having to pass drug safety education and a consent check if not doctor prescribed. Have thoughtful regulations and awareness about the whole thing.

      That some people will misuse something is no excuses to keep it from those that medically require it. And compared to the curent climate. Any drug naive “adult” can buy a liquor bottle of death almost everywhere with next to zero guardrails in place.

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        My understanding though (US) is the DEA limits the raw ingredient supply with no regard to the demand by patients. The drug manufacturers get what they get whenever the DEA decides they are allowed to have it.

        It sucks having the government decide whether I get my medication each month. It sucks having to submit to drug tests to prove I am taking my meds and not hoarding/selling them. I have a giant stack of paperwork from formal testing I had, which I had to pay for out of pocket because insurance doesn’t cover it. It was something like 600-800 dollars. That is enough dammit. I shouldn’t have to live in fear that my medication will be taken away or refilled late because I can’t even request my refill until the last minute.

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        Generic methylphenidate is less than 20€ a month in France counting pharmacist’s commission for handing over the box and the manufacturer’s profit. Americans are getting scammed. (Oh and most French people would pay at most 2€ for this since the national insurance scheme covers it)