For example workplace harrasment by women towards males like touching or groping being ignored because the victim is male but if it where to happen to a woman by a male the male would be fired

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    Everyone says to talk about your problems but the second you do, you’re told that women either have it worse or how they have some worse problem. I’ve largely stopped talking about my problems because I’m never heard, just talked past or worse, made out to be the problem. The older I get the more reinforced my silence is because evey time I open up it’s used against me and this is just normal.

    Meanwhile I’m expected to play therapist when someone else talks about their problems and I have to stop my autistic ass from telling them I really don’t want to hear about you. I can’t even get the silence I give returned to me.

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    Cut bits of a girl baby’s genitals: jail.

    Cut bits off a boy baby’s genitals: An occasion for a fucking party.

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    In dating or marriage: If a female partner criticizes on her male’s choice of outfit, it’s totally normal. If a male criticizes the choice of outfit of his female partner… a fight is imminent.

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      Insane expectations being placed on women around beauty and appearance, and the resulting insecurities that creates, play a big role in this

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    So one thing I noticed is that women betraying their partner has become extremely normalized

    • Every “ethical non monogamous” relationship I’ve seen IRL is just a woman pressuring their long term monogamous partner into a situation where she has multiple partners and she’s struggling
    • “Monkey Branching”, where a woman starts dropping hints at one guy while still seeing another in hopes of making a seamless transition, is pretty accepted. Emotional affairs are only a thing for men apparently
    • While it’s always been acceptable to leave a guy if he can’t “provide” for you, it’s really fucking stupid in the context of modern feminism
    • Women who use OLD are often encouraged to have a “roster” of men, who they form a well beyond casual connection to.
    • There’s a large number of 30+ year old women breaking up with their long term partners to “find themselves”. I put that in quotations because this usually just involves a ton of casual sex. It’s basically the modern day equivalent of a guy leaving his wife for the secretary
    • There are a million different love triangles on TV. They are almost all two guys and a woman who is disrespectful of both. The guys get mad at each other and the women’s behavior is not portrayed as toxic.
    • Like 80 percent of holiday movies involve a woman leaving her fiance for a man she just met. This is always seen as romantic, instead of psychotic.

    In addition to all that, women are extremely reluctant to criticize other women. This stands even when another woman is behaving in an almost objectively toxic way. I moved post covid. The first year I witnessed a fuckton of toxic behavior, but when I tried to point it out I would get dirty glances from women. The second year there I ended up getting close to other women in those conversations who took it upon themselves to tell me in a smaller setting that they actually agreed with me, but they didn’t want to appear unsupportive.

    Whatever the intention there, the mentality enabled a subset of women to be shitty and probably convinced a lot of men that such behavior was something most women were okay with.

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      “women are extremely reluctant to criticize other women”

      You should listen to women talk more, they’re extremely enthusiastic to talk shit about each other.

      I actually do agree with some of your points though, but on that point, I’ve rarely seen a woman reluctant to talk trash about another woman when given a chance (maybe more in he said/she said situations is what you’re referring to).

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        I’m 30 years old, and even when I was 15 I wasn’t really friends with the super mean girl gossip types. Throughout my life, I’ve been friends with women who largely identify as feminist and sort of reject those stereotypes.

        The problem is that post #metoo it became normalized to take the whole “support women” thing to such an extreme that it enabled toxic behavior. While there were women who tried to pull the whole “it’s sexist to criticize me for making poor life choices” crap, other women would get super offended for them attempting to use feminism in that way.

        It’s extremely frustrating that the 19 and 20 year old women I knew in college had better moral compasses than the 25 to 40 year old women I know now. That’s really not supposed to be how it works.

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    I don’t know any specific cases, but one thing I’ve heard that police (at least in Brazil) will just laugh at and ignore, is when a man is the victim of an abusive partner.

    Of course, it’s nowhere as common as men being the violent/abusive partner, but it happens, yet “society” will effectively say “grow a pair”

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    No one calls a woman a babysitter or says she’s “giving dad a break” when she’s somewhere with her own children.

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      I’m about 30. I have friends my age with young (toddler) daughters. They’ve had the police called on them walking with their own child. I’ve had the police called on me watching their daughter for them (these are friends I’ve had for 12 years, I’m basically her uncle).

      Men are assumed to be predators if they are near children.

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        I think its the larger double standard; men are sex monsters. A woman and a man can’t be friends. A child with a man is in danger.

        This is connected to; Intimacy is feminine. Men can only be vulnerable or gentle with their partners or families, if then. Its not universal, obviously, but the callous lover and the distant father are not so uncommon so as to be unrecognizable. Intimacy between men is also considered feminine, unless in the military or team sports.

        It’s a world we created as well. Every double standard listed in this thread is a double standard. But it is also something cultivated by the Patriarchy.

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    ITT about male victims of sexism-based double-standard, we see

    • stories of female victims
    • downvoting stories of male victims
    • the top-voted post about how men can’t speak up for fear of being shouted down

    Wow, Lemmy. Be better than Reddit.

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      That is exactly why I’m downvoting many of the comments here. Not personal stories, but all the “men have it so much worse” comments, which are ultimately just toxic against women.

      Because holy fuck, that was exactly Reddit, and I do not want this place to end up the same. We already have a massive imbalance between the genders and if we men start discrediting women, they’re most fucking definitely not going to show up here.

      I do want men to be able to speak about abuse stories. That is where our patriarchical society kills men, in that it does not allow us to show weakness. But it cannot fucking devolve into a us vs. them discussion, which this whole question is locked and loaded towards. That is not helpful to anyone.