I’m secretly hoping for another housing crash so I can afford a larger house and have my dad move in with me. Donald Trump seems to be my best chance at that
The way I console myself is by saying that likely, the only way the US elects a true socialist democrat (AKA Bernie Sanders / AOC) that can bring about a Brand New Deal, is by having the pendulum of American politics first swing so far to the right, that everyone with a conscience is forced to get out and vote in retaliation.
But the idea that we could simply vote our way out of a rising fascist dictatorship seems a fleeting fantasy.
Every time he replaces an experienced government leader/ worker with a loyalist, he gives the Resistance the Gift of Competence.
The military is now run by absolute morons, while the previous leadership, who is highly experienced, moral, serious, and COMPETENT, are all on our side. Do you think they are all just hanging out on the back porch, drinking scotch and waiting for Wheel of Fortune to come on? Just ignoring the oath they actually took seriously, as the nuclear inventory that they spent their lives and highly successful careers protecting, is in the hands of the most corrupt traitors in American history?
We haven’t heard a word from those people, and it can’t be because they just don’t care. They are definitely making plans for the day that HitlerPig declares Martial Law, and suspends elections, habeus corpus, due process, etc. When they call for the current military members to make a choice between the MAGA wannabees, and operating under real military leaders, most will choose Competence over Chaos.
Do you think they are all just hanging out on the back porch, drinking scotch and waiting for Wheel of Fortune to come on?
Maybe. Or maybe they’re as powerless as the rest of us and are doing the same nervous doom scrolling we are. There’s no reason whatsoever to suggest that there’s some secret gang of competent former govt employees banding together to form the resistance.
We haven’t heard a word from those people, and it can’t be because they just don’t care.
It can be. Or it can be because they’re out looking for new jobs in a shitty economy.
This is pure fantasy. Come on, be realistic here.
Realistic? Realistically, those military leaders are not the kind of people who are just going to accept this. They have spent their entire lives protecting America, amd our nuclear arsenal from threats. I doubt they are going to just fold up in the face of comically blustery MAGA Nazi intimidation.
Pure fantasy is thinking that somehow this situation is going to resolve on its own, or believing that these guys held normal jobs, and are now on Indeed, sending out resumes, and going to job interviews.
This won’t resolve in a positive direction without tough leadership, and the best military leadership in the world has been benched. I’m sure they’d love to get back into the game, especially with such an important objective in the line.
People will feel the economic impact like a freight train here pretty soon, and hopefully that pisses off the idiot cult enough to make them turn on the republican party. They might not ever turn on trump, but I think his base will turn on the party quick once they start to really struggle. Then maybe we can rebuild some of this madness, invest in science and education, and have a reasonably well educated populas; and then maybe fascism will die.
Most likely wishful thinking. I’ve lived long enough to see my political efforts fall completely flat or get reversed outright. The people who share my viewpoints either can’t be bothered, for some fucking crazy reason, or insist to “play by the rules”. Fuck the rules, they don’t play by the rules. It’s time to get a fucking spine and fight back, but we’ve been given too much bread and too many circuses, so much that at least half of us would rather collapse society than share or take less.
We are vain, narcissistic, horrible little parasites that feel entitled to impose our will how we see fit. Yes, at the moment I mean this strongly about Myself and fellow Americans, but this disaster is far from unique to us. Countless species extinct, counteless lives taken, countless pain inflicted. Human beings are the apex invasive species, and there is no one at all to put us into check. It’s hard to feel like any of this is undeserved, and it’s foolish to think we deserve anything at all.
I generally try to be positive, and you can save your fingers from debating with me. I just don’t care anymore. We could kill ourselves tomorrow and I would only feel relief for the life that will thrive without us fucking it all up. Fuck every last one of us.
we’ve been given too much bread and too many circuses
For a while I celebrated the idea that we were in the “Golden Age of Television.” So many amazing shows, stories being told so exquisitely. But the more I think about it, the more that the ancient roman proverb of Bread and Circus seems more apt. I sit in front of a computer screen all day for work. On my breaks, I browse Lemmy on my phone. When I get off, I work out while staring at another screen in the gym. While making dinner I put on whatever NBA game is currently playing. While eating dinner I watch a show. After dinner I watch a comedy series while I eat dessert, occasionally browsing the internet simultaneously. My whole day, from when I wake up, to right before I go to bed, consuming content from a screen.
I wonder how many are like me, and how many of us are successfully using this constant stream of info- and entertainment to dull the pain of living like this. And what would it take for us to truly resist.
I think you’re right in that it would take hardship. We’re all mostly two missed paychecks away from our living standard collapsing, that could do it. But then that begs the question, how does one resist the rise of fascism? Because I’m beginning to think that voting may not save us when those in power are completely divorced from public outcry or consequences. When peaceful opposition is made impossible (or illegal on certain college campuses), when they round up and deport those that would publicly question their authority, when our elected leaders wring their hands in mocking frustration over all the nothing they’ve tried… well, perhaps violence is the answer after all. What other means have they left us?
We’re seeing the beginnings of further European integration. Who knows, there may even be an EU military in the future.
When someone shoots him in the fucking face, I won’t feel even a little bad about it.
i appreciate the BuyEU and BuyCanada movements.
also uniting both canada and eu in terms of defense is a good move, imo.
the amount of incompetency people didn’t think would exist, we now have a good example of~! maybe it is not incompetency, but retrograde thinking~.
I’m a US citizen looking for a way out and it’s probably not going to happen because I’m not rich and I’m not important.
The good news is I will likely be killed over this horseshit soon enough so I won’t have to suffer that long with it.
the silver lining is that you die?
it’s that i escape but yes
Canada was watching, pulled a 180 and didn’t elect their own Trump Wannabee.
The Conservatives increased their share of the vote compared to the last election (+7.5%), in particular among younger voters. The Liberals only scraped together just enough for only a minority govt because the vote for other parties plummeted.
Didn’t elect their own Trump wannabe yet.
Fascism is on the rise globally, so we must all be vigilant. There are enough warning signs that Canada could be just around the corner.
Australia has a federal election this weekend. Fingers crossed that hopefully they can make the correct choice.
I’d rather them make the left choice.
Ah, I get it. I really meant the “correct” choice.
Yea, we don’t want them to shift in the wrong direction.
Let’s hope Albanese can stick around.
This is what has me so depressed. This is a forever thing. They lost there for now, but they’re just going to get better at their manipulation as “they” have globally. Reich wing asshole billionaires have been solidifying control of all major media. It’s only a matter of time when fascism runs most major countries. :(
Were it not for actual Trump, wannabe Trump was on track to win. It won’t take long for that to come back
This has happened before. The Nazis were not the only fascists back in the 1930s, it was a global movement. The movement passed. This one will too. It’s just a matter of trying to keep the high tide mark down until then.
I’m just concerned the media landscape is so different now that we don’t have enough people living in the “same reality” to really ensure that. Hope you’re right though. Unfortunately no matter what I think we’re going to have to go through the worst of it before anything can change. :/
Exactly.
Authoritarians of all stripes love to lay claim to eternity.
We don’t have to believe them though.
Well it hasn’t happened yet but if house prices collapse, it will be good as long as we can keep our jobs. So many people I know work here but can’t buy a house. I bought my first in a market crash in the 1990s. He’s been so bad for the economy, I am hoping the house values crash.
there are 3 things that concern me about future house prices/ mortgage cost:
- feds not lowering interest because high inflation.
- reduced construction labor force.
- increasing maternal cost.
It’s an accelerationist’s wet dream. Things are gonna get real bad here soon, and the best we can hope for is the when the backlash comes it will be swift and lasting.
The Canadian people are united like they have never been before. Canadian dollar as been rising. Canada is getting more doctors and high level professionals as some flee the U.S. Canada has been expanding trade ties around the world (exception is U.S.). Traveling Canadians are welcomed around the world.
From my European perspective:
- Countries are finally starting to push for independence from the US when it comes to defence etc
- The UK and Canada moving closer to the EU, increasing political and economic cooperation
- Brain drain from the US leading to American academics moving to Europe, bolstering our economy and research
- Hopefully seeing how fucked up the US is will eventually lead some people to reconsider voting for the far-right in Europe
The AfD nutters aren’t reconsidering. They just see the deportations and go “yay”.
Yeah, but I don’t think the nutters make up the full quarter of the voting population currently willing to vote for them. Lots of them are protest voters who are just vaguely “against”. Besides, I don’t think it’d be the deportations making some people reconsider, but the sheer economic stupidity of the Trump government as well as their attitude towards Europe. I fully expect Americans to be far poorer and more miserable in 2-3 years and that might do wonders to dispel the myth that the far-right could “fix the economy”.
One silver lining that I’m hoping for is that the collapse of American global influence might result in a rollback of the insane intellectual property regime they’ve been pushing on the rest of the world for generations. There were already hints of this sort of thing happening back during Trump’s first term; the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty originally included a bunch of clauses protecting American IP but when Trump withdrew the rest of the signatories redesigned the treaty to remove those clauses.
The withdrawal of American foreign aid sucks, but likewise may end up removing roadblocks to various good things like family planning, sex ed, and so forth being offered. A lot of America’s foreign influence was a mixed bag due to their puritanical demands.
The people that didn’t vote against this shit are going to suffer for it.
The people that did vote against this shit are going to suffer as well.
Silver linings, not the obvious bad ones
