• qarbone@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    2 days ago

    Call me an asshole if you’re so inclined, I’m not wishing someone a happy mother’s day because they have a pet.

    • Lightfire228@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      2 days ago

      Pets are not children

      They have completely different physical and psychological needs and wants, and they need to be respected as a member of their species

      Speaking as someone who has 2 dogs, 3 cats, and no kids

      They are my companions, and i am their caregiver. But they are not my children

    • Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 days ago

      Fostering kittens involve getting up every 2-4 hours to feed a whole litter of cats for several weeks. Some volunteers take it upon themselves to do this for several litters a year because of animal abuse, abandonment, and neglect by shitty people.

      That’s more than some deadbeat parents have ever done.

      Not asking you to call them a mom, just asking you not to downplay the impact of animal care.

      • qarbone@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        2 days ago

        That’s more than some deadbeat parents have ever done.

        And we don’t typically celebrate those people on any holiday. You obviously feel strongly about this but please try to step back and realize I never said a word about animal stewardship. The existence of shite parents says absolutely nothing about the worth of animal stewardship because I believe they are not related beyond a general grasp of empathy. And even that’s tenuous if I’m allowed to believe people that say they’d sacrifice a person to save a dog.

        Calling yourself a “furbaby mama” I’ll not try to gainsay, even if I do think it’s silly. But expecting people to address them as a “mother/father/parent” is something else.

        • Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          You obviously feel to the need to tell people they’re overreacting anytime you feel attacked, but please try to step back and realize I never said you should call them a mom. Weird how often this happens on my account with a female name.

          I simply pointed out that being a pet owner alone shouldn’t preclude one from the same kind of appreciation, provided that they put in just as, if not more, effort than some mothers do. Fostering kittens is intense work, and being an animal fostering parent isn’t something to be scoffed at as a ‘silly’ title.

          • qarbone@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            edit-2
            2 days ago

            No, I tell people they are overreacting when they attempt to push me into a position I never started at for some personal reason I cannot fathom. And that’s me being polite.

            I brought the topic back to my stance on not calling pet owners (the primary demographic I’ve encountered who call themselves “furbaby parents”) “mother” on Mother’s Day because that was what my first comment said and was always about. Not anything about denigrating people that take care of animals. And certainly not because you have a female username. Once again, you’re trying to push my words into a weird position for your personal reasons. First trying to claim I think less of people that take care of animals and now apparently trying to tar me as some sort of sexist?

    • BurntWits@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      2 days ago

      Funny, mine’s the opposite. My wife is pregnant right now with our first, and was insistant this was her zero-th Mother’s Day. Next year will be her first “real” Mother’s Day, but she wanted something small this year.

      My friend is a florist, so she helped me get a nice floral arrangement put together for her yesterday. My wife cried. It was very nice.

  • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    2 days ago

    If someone saw me with my cat and wished me a Happy Mother’s Day, I would have several questions. I’d honestly feel like I was doing something weird. Like, is it how I’m holding her? Why would you say that?

  • oceanA
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    2 days ago

    What is a dad-mom? A single father, stay at home dad, or what? Wouldn’t both instances be celebrated on Father’s Day?

    • FreeBird@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      Let the people be happy and appreciate each other. Who cares. If it was up to me I would Abolish both days, replacing them with “Parents’ day” and I would also put the “Single Parent’s day” right tomorrow after that day. That way single parents would get 2 days of celebration with no interruption.

      • oceanA
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        2 days ago

        I agree, but I can still ask what something means dawg.

        Fully disagree with parents day because each parents deserves a day that’s singularly theirs.

        lol, why would single parents need a day outside of parents day?

        • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          2 days ago

          Fully disagree with parents day because each parents deserves a day that’s singularly theirs.

          As the child of lesbians I have bad news about each parent getting their own day…

          • scintilla@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            2 days ago

            Well we all know one fo them was a mom-dad and one of them was the mom-mom.

            /s just in case.

          • oceanA
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            Good thing it’s obviously that’s who I was referring to.

    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      2 days ago

      Yes, dad mom is a derogatory way of essentially saying that men who cook, clean and take care of their babies are moms/women. It’s an extension of the view that men aren’t supposed to do that stuff so when they do, they’re behaving like women.

      It’s the same toxic reason why people say to dads “oh you’re baby sitting?” No that’s literally my child, you can’t babysit your own kids

      • oceanA
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        Yeah that’s the vibe I felt as well. Well said! Like saying poor single mother versus super dad.

      • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        I didn’t interpret it as derogatory or toxic here though. This is intended to be wholesome so I took it to mean “Dads who provide caregiving in any multitude of ways that some might consider a traditional mother’s role”. So if we assume that and no extra baggage, I think that’s worth celebrating too.

        Of course with the cultural baggage, you would be right. I just don’t think that was implied here.

    • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      My kids mom isn’t in their life anymore because she decided to leave and so it’s just the three of us. My closest friend calls me to tell me happy Mother’s Day and happy Father’s Day every year. It doesn’t change anything but it’s kind of nice to know someone understands the load.

    • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      Single parents pull double duty generally. So the kids sometimes celebrate them twice. I’m curious about how same sex couples with children do it are they both celebrated on one day or does one get father’s day and the other mothers day?

    • thedarkfly@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Maybe a gay couple that adopted? One is celebrated on Mothers’ day and the other one on Fathers’ day.

      • oceanA
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Maybe that’s what the pink implies? Good catch

    • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      The dad mom made me think of the Mother’s Day episode of Modern Family with Cam and Mitch where Cam was getting the celebration on Mother’s Day.

      • oceanA
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Hahaha! That’s a great example. I have a lesbian couple friend that does it the same way. Their wedding also one wore a tux and one a dress. Depends on the couple and people though

  • indepndnt@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    2 days ago

    I didn’t have a great mom. This is the first mother’s day where my first instinct was to look around and see all the great moms in my life instead of just hating that my mom has a holiday. Like the one waking up next to me (who is not my kids’ bio-mom but is nevertheless a great mom), my grown daughter who has fur babies, and the various moms involved in our kids’ schools. There are lots of great moms out there.

    • Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      There are billions of moms in the world, but each one of us only have one or two. It’s not just about celebrating every mom, it’s also about acknowledging what your mom meant to you.