• hperrin@lemmy.ca
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    Soccer is just short for as_soc_iation football, so we kind of also call it football.

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      Football just means you play on your feet (not on horse) that’s why most sports are {name} football

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    Shockingly, nations aren’t monoliths.

    Football was the name the players used.

    Soccer was the name used by people looking down on them and legislating against them.

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    It’s because soccer is more of a southern English slang for football so it was never in parlance across the country (the UK never “switched” from soccer to football).

    There are many games of football: rugby league, rugby union, association football etc.

    Association, contracted to assoc / soc.

    And around Oxford, people like to add ‘-er’ to things. Rugby = rugger. Association football = soccer. Freshman = fresher.

    There’s no denying the UK has a bias in the media and literature, especially in the past, to southerners. Thus soccer became quite common in writing and thus exported widely across the world.

    But when many of the best football teams in the UK are northern, it’s understandable that the posh southern slang for the game was never widely regarded and remains ridiculed to this day.

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      posh southern slang

      Worth putting the posh part in the first line too, definitely a very public school thing to call it soccer.

      And for any confused non-brits reading, “public” schools are private schools. We named them wrong for a joke.

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        Public schools may be private schools, but they ate the poshest and ponciest private schools, even if you have the money to afford them you can’t get in without the right connections.

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        “public” schools are private schools

        Despite having invented the English language, you Brits are really bad at it

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        lol that just sounds like capitalism in the US where “freedom to choose internet” bill is actually freedom for a private corporation to choose where they have monopolies and therefore they get to choose where they sell their internet

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          Ours used to make more sense

          A public school in England and Wales is a type of fee-charging private school originally for older boys. The schools are “public” from a historical schooling context in the sense of being open to pupils irrespective of locality, denomination or paternal trade or profession or family affiliation with governing or military service, and also not being run for the profit of a private owner.

  • tyler@programming.dev
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    Exact same thing with aluminum. Officially named by the Brits, then other Brits didn’t like it.

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      Well yes and no, but mostly no. The originally-proposed name by the Brit who named it was actually alumium. Scientists in other European countries (not the UK) gave him feedback that it should have the prefix ‘ium’ and logically be named aluminium as it is refined from an alumina/alumine oxide, following the naming pattern of other elements. He agreed and refined it to aluminium, but also used aluminum in a textbook he wrote around the same time.

      This was all within a decade or so more than 200 years ago. The scientific world settled on aluminium long before any products had even hit the market in the US, but Noah Webster for whatever reason decided to use the spelling ‘aluminum’ in his dictionary in 1828, even though US scientists were already using ‘aluminium’ and it was more common locally. And once it was in the dictionary (with no mention of the alternate spelling) it stuck.

      So this one is mostly on the US.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Etymology

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      The revised name is better though:

      • Helium
      • Lithium
      • Beryllium
      • Sodium
      • Magnesium

      And the next should be…? If an element ends in “um” there’s normally an “i” before the “um”. We should also fix Molybdenum, Lanthanum and Tantalum while we’re at it. There are 80 elements with an “ium” ending, but only 3 or 4 (depending on if you say Aluminum or Aluminium) without the “i”.

      Also, screw it, #79 should be Aurium.

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    Imagine if the us switched to calling soccer football. What would the us call American football then? It would be weird to call it American football in America

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    And then we exported “sakkaa” to Japan, but don’t worry Japan we won’t abandon you like the English and hop on the “football” bandwagon.

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    Well, in fairness, the rest of us non-native English speakers also make fun of “soccer” and we don’t particularly care where the soccerers in question are from.

    From that point of view, and it sure is a certain point of view, the Brits just figured out the rest of us were mocking you faster. This, I imagine, is also why they started getting into the metric system at some point.

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      What about spring?

      Let’s genuinely fix the seasons: spring, bloom, fall, decay.

      There we go.

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        Yes, Brits love to shit on ‘Fall’ but not only did they come up with it, they still use it’s complimentary season, ‘Spring’. Those are both short for ‘the fall of the leaf’ and ‘the spring of the leaf’. They switched exclusively to Autumn because they fucking love pretending they speak French, but for some reason never did the same with Spring