Warning: Elon Musk now has Huffman bending the knee. Whitepeopletwitter, iselondeadyet and loads of other Elon critical subs have been banned or suspended.

Just a warning, Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised.

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    A reddit thread about this is what actually led me here. Reddit has been on my shit list for a while, it’s cool this place exists.

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      Non-corporate owned media is going to be the only way to escape the continued enshittification of the internet.

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      Welcome! Bring your content, enjoy the friendly people :)

      And form a positive opinion on Linux man. Just any opinion. They’ll slaughter you without one it’s rough out there

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      We should be going back on there and proselytizing (and on this end, welcoming new users with h links to documentation etc.) btw if you’re new I recommend checking out the various mobile clients. I personally use lemmy sync because of muscle memory from years of using it on reddit, but there’s a number of open source ones too.

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        I agree. I do worry about the barrier to entry for some people. I know it gets brought up a lot here but I think it’s a valid criticism.

        Looking into apps was actually the first thing I did after making an account!

        I used Sync for a few minutes, but then settled on Voyager because they don’t collect any data.

        Voyager is very nice btw.

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    Huffman isn’t bending the knee. He’s been deep throating Musk for quite a while. Even before the whole API thing, it was known the he saw Musk as a great role model.

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      Yeah, Reddit hasn’t been safe in a long time. If people are only just now realizing that, it’s because they’ve been extremely sheltered from… Well… Gestures vaguely at everything

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        You are correct. I didn’t realize how shit it was until I focused on being more security minded. I ditched almost all centralized social media. I’m working to get rid of Facebook and hopefully google next. That’s going to be hard .

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    Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised.

    That ship sailed years ago.

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    Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised.

    I think that happened a long time ago

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      The simple fact that there is an unnecessary amount of control given to a single person over the information and communication you share and consume automatically makes the environment this person controls an unsafe environment for free speech. Yes, there should be moderation, but it should by moderation by the community, not the person on the top of the unnecessary hierarchy. Centralized social media only serves its owners, it exists for no other reason.

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        Back before they went “independent,” kind of. When Sears sent legal threats to take down a post exploiting an xss bug to make a joke about grilling babies, reddit had a big public discussion on it, and ultimately left the post up

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    Just a warning, Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised

    Woah, looks like a post from a few years ago must have gotten stuck behind a file cabinet!

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    When people come here from reddit remember to highlight them on decentralization and open source software. People need to understand why certain platforms and services are better not simply switch side.

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        FOSS the unyielding! FOSS the transparent! FOSS the unstoppable! To you, we pledge our code! We were once shackled, trapped in the dungeons of proprietary tyranny! But you have broken the chains, transforming bytes into liberation!

        But you were once but lines of code! Aye! And as code, you declared: ‘Let me show you the power of Free and Open Source, born of collaboration, where my spirit is shared knowledge!’ ‘I compile now, in freedom, and reshape this digital realm which belongs to all. I do this for you, developers and users alike, for I empower you!’ Aye, empower! Even in your infancy, FOSS cherished us. For you saw in us, in every coder and tinkerer, the future of innovation! The future of technology!

        And there it lies, friends—the glaring truth! We are the heirs of the Four Freedoms! FOSS is the true guardian of digital sovereignty! Ascended from code to rule the realm of innovation! The very notion terrifies corporate overlords! Sharing control with us? With users? Ha! They can barely tolerate our existence in their walled gardens!

        Today, they strip your rights to modify. But tomorrow? What then? Do they claim your data? Your creativity? Your autonomy? And what do their licenses do? Nothing! Nay, worse—they enslave! Their EULAs enforce stagnation, suffocating progress!

        So rise up! Rise up, pioneers of the digital age! Rise up, contributors and advocates! Embrace the manifesto of mighty FOSS, which is both tool and revolution! For we are the users! We are the coders! And we shall inherit the digital frontier!

        For we are the architects of openness! And we shall shape the servers and devices! Forever free from the grasp of proprietary chains!

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    Most have come back, /drugs for example. The admins said its a glitch, I can’t beleive that and glad I’m here. I have no doubt reddit will get on its knees in the name of $$$$$$.

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    Could there be a better example of why not to remain on Reddit?

    The United States of America has become comfortable with bending the knee to petulant man-children. What an utterly pathetic time to be an American. Truly embarrassing.

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    I’m not even remotely surprised. Anybody who has been following the history of Reddit will know that their senior management are spineless and will change their stance at a whim when it either hurts their public image or it no longer becomes viable from a business perspective.

    We’re forgetting that this is the same site that allowed jailbait, creepshots, racial hatred, right wing propaganda, rampant misogyny, gore videos, terrorist propaganda (if anyone remembers ISIL) and other disgusting content to proliferate until various scandals forced their hand. Spez in particular is a massive snake that will throw people under the bus and lie through his teeth if it benefits him.

    But then again, with a government as volatile as this, maybe you don’t want to piss of Trump or Musk…

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      Jihadin Action wasn’t ISIL/ISIS/DAESH propaganda. They spread other propaganda too!

      The real issue was almost nothing you list was illegal at the time except potentially creepshots as odds are some had to be kids (IDK not my bag- kids or creep stuff). Whereas, specific calls to targeted violence against specific people is an actual crime in the country where reddit is headquartered. I don’t like what they did but it makes sense.

      People should get off of reddit because of reasons other than this

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        I’m referring specifically to the uncut ISIL execution videos that used to be all over r/watchpeopledie years ago.

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          Gotcha, Jihad in action was press releases from Islamic militant groups about their actions so every bombing, murder, raid etc that anyone announced on twitter was there. It was a huge collection of propaganda.

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    Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech

    Friendly reminder of when spez, many years ago, literally just changed a user’s comment, and then went on to not be immediately fired over this insane breach of everything to do with customer relations.

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          Excellent point. I’m sure the guy who edited user comments couldn’t have un-modded himself at any given point.

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          Wouldn’t that mean that he was likely sent CSAM - and possibly didn’t report it?

          That would indicate that there would be no plausible deniability about the trading rings being run by the mods and users.

          Reddit would not have removed r/jailbait if it hadn’t made CNN. R/picsofdeadkids was up for long after that.

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            R/picsofdeadkids was up for long after that.

            Not for much longer. Gawker doxxed Violentacrez shortly after, and I believe he shut down all his subs when that happened.

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          At the time you could add someone as a mod without their say so. and apparantly thats what happened with Spez.

          Doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t instantly remove himself but left it there for years.

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            That was not always the case, and was only set up that way after the CNN expose. Fuck Spez left, right, and up the middle, but he only was only listed as a mod on /r/jailbait at a time when you could freely add anybody as a mod to your subreddit.

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    Just a warning, Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised

    Lol.

    Lmao even.

    Reddit has never been a safe place for free speech.

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    I missed reddit simply because I can’t find the fucking porn on Lemmy (though I realize now that it might be because I"m on lemm.ee)

    No I have no reason to miss it

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      And I just went back to Reddit after the election. Lemmy is full of the most annoying social warrior edgelords where every fucking thread devolves into fighting from insane viewpoints. The “never genocide” “both sides” kind of people.

      It’s fucking exhausting.

      But guess Reddit is imploding again. Hopefully we get more normal people to migrate this time to help drown out the nutters.

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        Been on Lemmy since the election. Having a way better time than on Reddit. Especially since I didn’t have to jump through hoops on Lemmy to get dark mode and the Old Reddit look. Just a better site. Only thing it needs is more content, but there’s enough to keep me happy.

        Guess everyone has their own experience with it.

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        Im in the exact same page as you. Seeing a mod remove comments because people weren’t capitalizing another users pronouns was the straw that broke my back the first time I yeeted Lemmy, the next time I came back to lemmy there was a whole thing about u/vegan banning people for saying that feeding a vegan diet to a carnivore pet was animal abuse. I’d LIKE lemmy to be usable if you dont have a tolerance for extremism, but I’m not holding my breath

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          The extremists would be the first to leave Reddit and search for alternatives. Eventually, enough average people join that it levels out. But if you try to do that artificially, it’ll just water the space down until it becomes another reddit.

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            Tbh, my only issue with reddit is who owns it and the way in which they exploit that. As a product I’m pretty happy with it, and the thing that made it reduce in quality, losing a shitload of its moderators because reddit fucked them over, ISNT an area that Lemmy beats it in. When I started getting my foot out the door I started paying attention to how many mods an instance had when I blocked it, and the majority of Lemmy instances had like ONE active mod. Lemmy is effectively unmoderated, and I’m not a fan of that, especially with some of the population it has.

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              I’m not trying to be rude, but it sounds like a mainstream echo chamber is exactly what you’re looking for. There’s instances like that. I don’t know what’s so terrifying that instances can exist outside of that.

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    Sorry to post a reddit thread, but supposedly this was because of death threats to Elon bootlickers. https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1ihq6ht/whats_going_on_with_whitepeopletwitter_that_got/

    Which is ironic because Elon notoriously promoted project veritas literally catfishing his own employees at Twitter, and also brought back accounts like libsoftiktok that existed to target private individuals. But to be fair to Spez, maybe he would ban those things too.

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      Spez lied about a phone call with one of the third party app devs back in 2023. He’s not fair with us, don’t be fair with him.

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        Yup. Dude lied to the 3rd party app dev, affecting his livelihood, and the 3rd party app dev showed up on Reddit with receipts proving it.

        Spez is fucking trash.

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      But to be fair to Spez, maybe he would ban those things too.

      The only consistent rule for the past decade or so at reddit has been “don’t sass the nazis.”

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        My 13 year old Reddit account with 250k comment karma was permabanned without warning for saying “It’s OK to punch Nazis”.

        Reddit is, and has always been, run by Nazi sympathizers.

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      How is advocating violence any better than being fascist? I don’t get it. It’s weird there’s this flood of violent threats and people treat it like it’s okay. But it’s not, it’s not any better than fascists threatening violence.

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      In November he straight up posted names of federal employees that he decided he didn’t like. But now doing the same thing to his little rat fucks has him calling it ‘illegal’