Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”

  • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
    3·
    9 minutes ago

    I see a lot of good discussion here. I’ve been on proton for years now, using my own domain. While true that Andy is one of 5 board members, and it’s a nonprofit etc, these statements are raising hairs on my neck, personally.

    Does anyone have a good guide on problems associated with self-hosting email?

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    30 minutes ago

    Another tech dipshit, whose wealth allows him to exist outside the realm of reality, bending the knee to an anti-democratic felon rapist so he can get some handouts.

    Pathetic loser.

    Growing up, if you had told me half or more of America would end up elevating a rapist to the presidency and prostrating themselves at his feet, I’d have laughed you out of the room. This nation has sunk LOW.

    NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.

  • plixel@programming.dev
    25·
    1 hour ago

    I literally just switched over from Google a few months ago and finally got all settled in. Just great. Does anyone know of any good alternative? I know Tuta exists, are there other options?

  • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
    18·
    1 hour ago

    What’s that, Lassie? Another platform that’s not self hosted outing themselves as a chud? Well, I never!

  • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
    3·
    25 minutes ago

    This is a stretch & honestly not worth abandoning proton because of this. Don’t just abandon a good FOSS/Privacy project just because of a CEO’s (of a frickin Non-Profit) statements, you’re too busy arguing & not getting things done Have some nuance guys

    Could be 1000+ IQ chess move in disguise, appeal to Trump’s ego & get him to make trouble for big-tech

  • MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world
    5·
    52 minutes ago

    I wouldn’t say he embraced Trump, I’d say he is pro-breaking big tech, since that would probably help Proton.

    Bernie Sanders even came out and said “hey, if Trump wants to cap credit card interest rates, I’m with him on that.”

    Trump says a lot of shit to appeal to working class people. I don’t disagree with reminding him of what he said and holding him to those things, if he’s now going to be president.

  • Razzazzika@lemm.ee
    34·
    2 hours ago

    Why does he think Trump is against big tech when he’s working side by side with Musk?

  • egerlach@lemmy.ca
    46·
    3 hours ago

    The official @[email protected] account replied and doubled down

    [email protected] - @jonah

    Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation.

    Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote.

    At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

    1/2

    [email protected] - @jonah By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand.

    Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

    Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

    2/2

    (Less importantly, my response)

    • Kate-ay@lemmy.world
      3·
      26 minutes ago

      That is somet nieve horseshit. Goddammit I don’t want to switch email providers again!

    • booly@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      1 hour ago

      These fuckers act like they’ve never heard of Lina Khan. Let’s see if Republicans try to replace her with someone with a stronger track record. Or, if they’re so serious about tech competition maybe they’ll get on board with net neutrality.

      And look, I actually like Gail Slater (the Trump nominee that kicked off this thread). She’s got some bona fides, and I welcome Republicans taking antitrust more seriously, and rolling back the damage done by Robert Bork and his adherents (including and probably most significantly Ronald Reagan).

      But to pretend that Democrats are less serious about antitrust than Republicans ignores the huge moves that the Biden administration have made in this area, including outside of big tech.

    • dance_ninja@lemmy.world
      40·
      2 hours ago

      So sounds like their main concern is addressing the abuses of the FAANG monopolies, and only a Republican has talked to them about it.

      I guess that is understandable in that very narrow lens, but it’s a bit laughable considering how all the big tech companies are also cozying up to the Trump administration. All this has done for me is make me wary of anything Proton does now.

      • frozenspinach@lemmy.mlEnglish
        9·
        2 hours ago

        Also the obviously reactionary and self-interested history of right wing reaction to FAANG, which largely has been fueled by a backlash to restraints on misinformation, and is riddled with special case exceptions (e.g. Palestine).

    • frozenspinach@lemmy.mlEnglish
      14·
      2 hours ago

      By my lights your response is quite effective, and while I appreciate the modesty I think it’s appropriate to bring it over here:

      Unfortunately, there’s a line beyond which it’s not okay to view a political party through one issue, and IMO the Republicans have crossed that line.

      Privacy is a human rights issue. Republicans have signaled very strongly that they’re going to violate more human rights. It’s a net loss for privacy if that happens, even if big tech is a bit more restrained.

      I’m sorry @protonprivacy, you’ve failed this test IMO. It would be one thing to say that given that the Republicans are in power, that Gail Slater is a good pick, but that’s not the stance you took.

    • ShotDonkey@lemmy.worldOP
      14·
      2 hours ago

      Fuck, they are dumb and bad businessmen. What’s the reason still to chose their product over Tuta, Posteo, Mullvad? They have lost their unique selling point as at least pretending being a neutral instance providing private services. Plain stupidity.

    • egerlach@lemmy.ca
      6·
      3 hours ago

      N.B. I originally went looking for a reason that maybe it was okay that Andy Yen was giving the thumbs up to Gail Slater. I thought this was an unfair internet pile-on. I think now it’s a fair internet pile-on.

  • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
    16·
    2 hours ago

    Yes I’m sure he’ll crack down hard on all the tech companies that are giving him millions of dollars and kissing his feet…

    What a moron.

  • tomatol@lemm.ee
    43·
    3 hours ago

    Very disappointing that this is the CEO and founder of Proton. I’ll be moving my stuff elsewhere and deleting my account this week.

  • WhatSay@slrpnk.netEnglish
    52·
    4 hours ago

    Taking the time to remove Google, embraced proton mail … Maybe it’s time to just write letters and send meme post cards.

  • Alas Poor Erinaceus@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    1 hour ago

    Did he (the CEO) really need to do this? Orange 🍄 Guy’s probably never even heard of Proton. The transition for me from Tuta to Proton was long and rough, so I’m not prepared to jump ship just yet and really hope I won’t have to.

  • Ballissle@lemmy.zipEnglish
    28·
    3 hours ago

    Ffs. I just switched a ton of stuff over to proton. Hopefully this is an individuals view and not that of the company as a whole.

      • frozenspinach@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        2 hours ago

        It was intended to kind of be my new primary universe for personal communications, leaving behind Google for work/biz.

        But… maybe the water is warmer at Tutanota?

        • Ballissle@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2·
          1 hour ago

          I was considering tutanota but it felt too small and lacking some features that proton seemed better for. I may look at it again.

          I cannot move from simple login though. I bought a lifetime plan which also includes proton pass and i use simple login extensively now.

          I do use a custom domain but not for most things which i use simple login domains. My custom domain uses my full name and i dont want that associated with some random newsletter or game company etc. But important services are on my custom domain so not the end of the world and can change them all. I dont know who could replace simple login though.