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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”
People somehow still surprised by Switzerland being neutral on Naziism
That chocolate ain’t gonna pay for itself!
Why can’t we have nice things?
It’s ridiculous how many people just go “oh well time to dump Proton” because of a picture (not even a link) of a tweet without context. Also the title is misleading. Andy Yen in this picture is complementing Trump, and also apperently posting facts about who started the antitrust actions. “Embracing” is, really, as I have written, misleading.
Damn, this sucks. I fled Google for Proton and use it for email, files, and my own domain email.
Hypothetically, if Hitler saved a child from being hit by a car would you publicly sing Hitlers praises and be happy to make positive quotes about it?
Does being on the right side of a single issue negate everything else?
This is in reference to Trump, yes, not Andy Yen?
Based!
I wonder what is the percentage of nuts tech ceos.
Seems to be abnormally high
Rich people tend not be good people in general
I think it’s just really rich people, but tech CEOs are in this terminally online culture so not only does it all end up out there but they seem to feed off each other and try to bizarrely one up each other.
Once you start getting real money, you start noticing how much is going to taxes.
Even though the net income is more money than you’ve ever seen in your life, and the meagre fraction that is going to welfare is abysmally small, yet was a true lifeline to you when you needed it mere weeks ago… it still makes your blood boil knowing you’re not getting everything you feel you deserve.
Imagine that amplified x 10, and you can see how a CEO might feel that they’re throwing tens of thousands a month on what they feel are undeserving recipients. All they see are the zeroes, not the percentage.
TL;DR - we all inhabit the same planet, but we live in different worlds.
I see a lot of good discussion here. I’ve been on proton for years now, using my own domain. While true that Andy is one of 5 board members, and it’s a nonprofit etc, these statements are raising hairs on my neck, personally.
Does anyone have a good guide on problems associated with self-hosting email?
Setting up is a piece of cake but getting your emails through spam filters can be a pain.
Have you considered Tuta?
I don’t know any guide, but deliverability is the biggest concern and it may also not be fully under control. Sometimes IP blocks get blacklisted or deranked and your emails end in spam, and you might not even know that.
I am not a security expert, but I remember reading Proton is not really secure?
In what way?
Asolute security doesn’t exist, it’s always a trade-off with cost, time investment, and convenience.
Another tech dipshit, whose wealth allows him to exist outside the realm of reality, bending the knee to an anti-democratic felon rapist so he can get some handouts.
Pathetic loser.
Growing up, if you had told me half or more of America would end up elevating a rapist to the presidency and prostrating themselves at his feet, I’d have laughed you out of the room. This nation has sunk LOW.
NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.
NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.
Have we learned nothing of the whole “spend millions upon millions on YouTube sponsorships” debacle? Nord absolutely is hiding something from us.
If you need to forward ports, AirVPN seems the best right now. Otherwise, Mullvad.
Growing up, if you had told me half or more of America would end up elevating a rapist to the presidency and prostrating themselves at his feet, I’d have laughed you out of the room. This nation has sunk LOW.
Bill Clinton won reelection. Now, granted, he was not Trump levels, he was a piece of shit who at the very least abused his role and power over women. Now, even after me too, he’s a beloved elder statesman. Just saying, the nation has sunk lower, but I don’t know that’s a lot lower than where we were when we were kids.
he was a piece of shit who at the very least abused his role and power over women.
And bombed a pharmaceutical factory in Libya to distract people from the fact he could keep it in his pants
FYI, Nord no longer allows port forwarding as of a couple years ago. Proton is one of the few providers who still have that feature.
Compare:
https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/19483392309649-Does-NordVPN-offer-port-forwarding
People have private lifes. CEO‘s too. I don’t see why I should remotely care what the personal opinion of a CEO is. And I am deeply concerned that this is such a big deal, no matter what their opinion is.
If you have a personal problem with that, that‘s totally okay. Putting them on a stand, is not okay. Let them have an opinion. Debate if you disagree. But stop making such a scene out of everything.
I definitely care about the opinions of CEOs because it directly lets me know which companies to support or not.
If a CEO is a trash, then I don’t want to give them my money. Simple capitalism, that.
Again, why should I care? The company does not only consist of the CEO, which is also why I‘m interested in the things a company does, and not what a CEO says.
The direction of a company is often dictated by the CEO. CEO=dumb then company direction = also probably dumb
Partially agree. But a dumb CEO can be replaced (see Sonos).
So with that logic, we should not care about the president because theres other cogs in the system?
There is a difference between a public figure and a CEO.
I only care to the extent that companies are seen as people that can exercise free speech by donating tons of money to politicians. So seeing where a CEO might lean will change my mind about the future of said company.
With that said, I’d love for companies to just be companies and the people running them to be separate, but it’s all to intertwined in my opinion.
Not an American hmm? It shows!
This is a stretch & honestly not worth abandoning proton because of this. Don’t just abandon a good FOSS/Privacy project just because of a CEO’s (of a frickin Non-Profit) statements, you’re too busy arguing & not getting things done Have some nuance guys
Could be 1000+ IQ chess move in disguise, appeal to Trump’s ego & get him to make trouble for big-tech
I literally just switched over from Google a few months ago and finally got all settled in. Just great. Does anyone know of any good alternative? I know Tuta exists, are there other options?
FWIW if you switched once then next switch is RADICALLY easier.
Well, switching from Proton was more painful for me, at least on a free account, as it won’t gel with a desktop client like Thunderbird or Outlook, and last I checked, didn’t allow email forwarding.
Imagine switching from based proton just cuz CEO agrees with Trump.
I’ve liked my experience setting up Purelymail with a custom domain!
Same here. Fuck me.
DisRoot ?
I’m on the same boat :')
I know there’s Fastmail, but I don’t know if they have privacy on the level of Proton. I just know that one of the hosts on a tech podcast that I listen to moved there from Google and was impressed at how smooth the process was.
I just got started with mailbox.org. So far so good!
I wouldn’t say he embraced Trump, I’d say he is pro-breaking big tech, since that would probably help Proton.
Bernie Sanders even came out and said “hey, if Trump wants to cap credit card interest rates, I’m with him on that.”
Trump says a lot of shit to appeal to working class people. I don’t disagree with reminding him of what he said and holding him to those things, if he’s now going to be president.
It’s not even a matter of “thinking” that, it’s basically what he said. All his “siding” is in the context of antitrust and breaking tech monopolies. I don’t think trump will do much in this space, but dems didn’t do much either. If Trump will (the election is over anyway, so we are not discussing of choosing trump for this) it’s good, even if it comes from the Trump administration.
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What’s that, Lassie? Another platform that’s not self hosted outing themselves as a chud? Well, I never!