• iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    well at least this person suggests a doctor, some will reference a YouTube video where an influencer talks about gut supplements that will completely cure any mental health issues, cancer, diabetes and coronary heart diseases linked to genetic factors

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      HR is the office cop.

      NEVER talk to American cops.

      My HR and I have a wordless dirty look relationship.

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        I vote, seduce their mum, and bang the shit out of her! Then ask the coworker, who’s your daddy?

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      10 hours ago

      Have some patience

      I’m not disabled myself but if a coworker says something like that they’re probably just uninformed, it just shows that their concerned for you

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    I’ve had someone tell me with a straight face that I’m “basically taking meth”.

    This is the same kind of person that says “American cheese slices are one molecule away from being plastic!”

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      Even if meth was chemically identical to ADHD meds, the argument still wouldn’t hold. Anything that lessens people’s symptoms without creating even more problems can be a medication.

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      I like to pour them a glass of peroxide and tell them to drink it. It’s basically water. Literally just a molecule away from being water bro. Drink it bro, cmon! It’s just a molecule!

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      I mean, you technically sort of are taking meth in a way, but that’s because you need it since you react differently to it.

      I mean, there’s nothing wrong with someone with severe physical trauma being given fentanyl for example.

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        There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking fentanyl for any reason. There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking any drug for any reason. The only issues are things like how, where, when, etc. Anyone opposed to the full and complete legalization of all drugs should be executed.

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          There’s nothing morally wrong, but there’s definitely something physically wrong with taking fentanyl when you don’t need fentanyl, especially long term. Like just because someone is addicted doesn’t mean they should stay addicted. I doubt you’re advocating for alcoholics to remain alcoholic for example.

          Also, I think you mean anyone against the usage of all drugs don’t have a valid opinion, not the creation of all drugs (there’s no good reason Krokodil should exist for example).

      • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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        you technically sort of are taking meth in a way

        You are 100% NOT taking meth when you take ADHD stims. The only thing linking the two is the core ingredient which is a methyl-5 molecule, which your body makes on its own.

        The drug meth is a synthetic methyl-5 compound with a ton of other nasty crap in it that doesn’t exist in ADHD medication.

        Like I said, whoever says that is in the same group as the American cheese is almost plastic crowd.

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          Dex_amphetamine_

          Meth_amphetamine_

          No, the thing linking the 2 is the amphetamine part. Which is the actual stimulant.

          The drug meth is actually just methamphetamine - there’s no “nasty crap” in it unless the person synthesizing it doesn’t refine and purify it well, which is true of basically all chemistry.

          A more apt comparison is a strong beer and wine - both technically different things, but both get you drink because of the alcohol ingredient in them. They’re both alcoholic drinks.

          Same with amphetamines - both are stimulants that have essentially the same effect. That’s specifically why they both work in treating ADHD. The only significant difference is one is legal (with a prescription) and the other isn’t, which of course means good luck getting it really pure and at the correct dosage. The only other difference is how fast acting / long lasting they are because of that tail molecule, but the part that has an actual effect on people is the amphetamine part.

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        dexamphetamine literally lacks the methyl group which gives “meth” it’s name.

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          Yeah but it has the “amphetamine” part that gives meth it’s kick. And that’s what most people think of when it comes to the drug - the effect it has on a standard person, not the chemical name (otherwise they’d be calling methylprednisolone “meth” too. And let’s face it, the majority of the population doesn’t know why it’s nicknamed meth either).

          On a legal scale, “amphetamines” are what’s regulated, not methyl groups.

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      They do actually prescribe actual meth for adhd but it’s a different drug known as Desoxyn

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        Desoxyn is a brand name of methamphetamine hydrochloride. Literally the quintessential ADHD med.

        It’s completely different than the street drug “meth”. The only similarity is the methyl-5 ingredient, which is a molecule that our body naturally synthesizes continuously.

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          It’s completely different than the street drug “meth”. The only similarity is the methyl-5 ingredient, which is a molecule that our body naturally synthesizes continuously.

          Slightly surprised it hasn’t spawned a factoid that claims the body makes meth/is full of it.

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      Meth is the #1 most abused drug by clinical scientists. That is to say, just like functional alcoholism is a thing, there’s functional meth heads among some of the most well-respected and reputable scientists in the world. Anyway that would be my response if I was told I was basically taking meth.

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        That’s not really a good way to spin it. Having ADHD is nothing like functional alcoholism. An alcoholic is destructively addicted to alcohol, and a functional one is really good at hiding it.

        ADHD is a condition outside of any external influence, and medication helps normalize individuals dealing with it.

        Your approach is the logical equivalent of a burglar saying “I rob people’s homes because they have guns to defend themselves”.

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          What? No? I don’t think the scientists abusing meth all have ADHD or they’d have meds prescribed by their doctor. What I was saying was just a tongue in cheek response to someone telling you that you’re basically taking meth.

          I am really not following your analogy.

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            I don’t think the scientists abusing meth all have ADHD or they’d have meds prescribed by their doctor.

            Then that’s an even worse analogy than I thought you were saying. I get what you’re trying to say, but it comes across as “well that other guy did something wrong, so I can do it too”.

            And I know that’s not what you’re trying to say, but that’s how it reads.

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    some people aren’t there for a conversation, but are just waiting for the right moment to say the thing they want to say to get the brain chemicals they reward themselves with once they say it.

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      get the brain chemicals they reward themselves

      Damn. They should probably see a doctor about that and not take drugs.

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      High five for you and everybody else here. It’s like one of the 12 Rules for Life, assume that the other person knows things that you don’t. Remembering that rule tames the racing thoughts and helps me to listen effectively for a few moments. It holds relationships together.

    • T156@lemmy.world
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      Especially when the person taking them literally mentions that they are prescribed.

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      Unless Terry is running a very weird business and/or love his labelprinter

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    “Maybe you should mind your own fucking business.”

    I mean… at least they’re not trying to sell you supplements, essential oils, or other shit.

    Also why I never tell people I associate with about what I have or what I take. I leave it at “I have a condition” and then change the subject, like I’m a sad Victorian ophan trying to stay positive even as I am consumed by the knowledge that soon the plague will take me. (:

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    “Have you tried [holistic bullshit]? It worked great for my [barely an acquaintance] who had [unrelated issues]!”

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      It’s more fun when it’s your own mother trying to sell her MLM holistic bullshit. No mom, I don’t need your snake oil pills, I needed a therapist.

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        My mom: you don’t need therapy; all a therapist will do is tell you everything is your mom’s fault

        (Spoiler: I did and they did and it was)

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          Acceptance of the ways my mom failed me is a step towards detachment from her and healthy processing of my traumas. [That’ll be $15,000 USD. Worth it at twice the price]

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            Yeah. I started therapy for “anger management” (I got so frustrated at unmet needs that I bent a fork in half at a restaurant, which caused my still-boyfriend to urge me into therapy).

            Two months in, my mom visited and was flagrantly awful in ways I couldn’t emotionally repress. That helped my therapist zero in on the real issue and forced me to recognize it as well.

            My pocketbook is poorer but my non-relationship with my mom is much healthier. Oh! And I now am much better able to recognize my unmet needs and meet them before I bend a fork.