Fuck Tankies, Fuck Conservatives.
Fuck everyone who tries to maintain or implement hierarchies.
Conservatives want you to carry on working for them. Talkies just want to change who you work for. Both can get fucked.
Fuck stateism.
Anarchy Baby!
Hierarchies seem like an important structure to have in society.
Yes. Without them there is no justification for inequality. So to the people in power, they are very important.
But incase you genuinely believe that social order is impossible without hierarchies, you should probably read up on stateless societies, communal decision making, and anarchism.
The last time we had a post like this it was filled with a bunch of sealioning from tankies (authoritarian socialists). Be aware that we will be banning any such behavior.
common 196 W
on that thread most comments were downvoted lmao, i even got a comment in the negatives because i called them fascists (they are, doesnt matter if they like the USSR or not)
thanks for cleaning this comm up 👍
edit: someone literally downvoted every single comment in this thread lmao, the fascists are mad
Not sure why, but that happens in a lot of threads. Most threads I see all comments have at least one downvote lol
Naturally, red fascists are sensitive to being called out, since their natural habitat is the internet.
Seriously, how the fuck do we not consider them actual fascists? they support putin, xi and worst of all, bashaar al Kalb. They’re fascists that just want free housing and food.
PS: I’m a socialist myself, i’m not criticizing the left or the ideologies as a whole, just their Stalin circlejerk cult.
It’s such a weird thing. Stalinism is clearly facism. It almost seems like it’s impossible due to the facists fighting themselves
Welfare fascism: fascism with free houses
That’s their entire ideology pretty much.
While we got mass downvoted by them I’m glad I was able to have a sane conversation for once about socialism, without their BS. Its a nice change of pace
thank you for preserving this important history in our minds!
Yes! Fuck authoritarianism, including refusing to acknowledge another’s lived experiences because it doesn’t match up with the “authority” of your own.
We agree on many fronts and should have solidarity. I’ve enjoyed each and every interaction that I’ve had with you.
hi spujb. fucck authoritarianism in all forms !!
hi kate ur so deadass for this
sry idk what that means
means “hi kate ur so real for this”
stop making me feel old!!😭😭😭
Sure, grandma. let’s take you to bed now for your bingo game tomorrow
What is sealioning?
Considering America just became a fascist state, I vote tankies be allowed to post if they have actual tanks they’re willing to donate to the radical militias we’ve obviously all joined.
Fuck yes
okay but tankies aren’t white supremacists and that guy is wearing a screwdriver shirt
Tankies defend things like russian organised genocide during soviet union where they kept doing what hitler tried.
So just like skinheads they are all for human suffering. Arguing over semantics at this point.
Removed by mod
I see the horseshoe theory has spread far and wide.
Because tankies are just red facists~
When that’s your best defense. You’ve already lost.
I live in Northern Europe, so I’m watching the fight and laughing my ass off.
That only makes your argument weaker
lol
It’s an edit
As far as centrists are concerned, everyone to the left of Netanyahu is a tankie, and everyone to their left is somehow all the way to the right.
Maybe, but most Blåhaj or 196 users are far from being centrists.
In my experience, “tankie” is used in virtually all cases as a pejorative against the left, and not an identifier for actual tankies.
Making excuses for Russia or China’s ongoing crimes, and using the US’ crimes as a reason(?!?) for doing so, is usually what brings the term out.
Probably depends on where you hang out most.
Other than the hand tool or the beverage what doss screw driver mean in this context?
punk band notorious for being neo nazis
Well, skinheads aren’t welcome here either I’m hoping. But I had the same reaction as you.
please don’t give the term skinheads to the fascists. nazi punks fuck off ✌️
I do not possess a dick but this post made me rock hard. Like, mentally. Gave me a raging brainer.
Gave me a raging brainer.
I am stealing this. This mine now.
I have to be honest. I remembered I’ve heard it before. I stole it from Futurama!
One if my least favorite episodes, too…
Wait! I mean!
But the character is punching
And the other character isn’t a tankie.
Effectively there’s no difference between tankies and MAGA
If anyone wants to argue. Both want an oppressive rule that brings about very great gains to the society. Certain parts are eradicated.
All in the name of greater good.
More importantly, oppression magically skips over them.
Yes, that is fascism. Funny you ask.
What cartoon is that gal from? Seems recognizeable, but can’t remember where I’ve seen it before
Looks like Veronica from Archie.
Hey whats a tankie
This is a tankie. Nothing they say is genuine or in good faith. Their agenda is to manipulate and lie because they’re miserable. Feel free to check out their post and comment history if you want to see what a stain on humanity looks like.
In case you’re asking out of good faith curiosity:
Tankie is a pejorative (and rightfully so) term for a particular brand of communist/socialist. It’s worth noting that I have nothing against communists or communism in general (even though I don’t agree with it as a political system). A tankie is someone whose standpoint is that communism can do no wrong; anything that went wrong in USSR and China is CIA’s fault, and the Czechs, Hungarians, and Tibetans had it coming.
Oh, and to any tankies who are reading this and are tempted to engage in sealioning, don’t bother - I don’t care and probably won’t respond. Plus there’s a pretty good chance you’re already on my block list. Call me fascist if you will (I’vebeen called worse things), but at least tell me a definition of fascism that doesn’t also encompass todays China and Russia
Basically, it’s a label applied to people of a communist persuasion who have given up on any form of critical thinking, and just defaults to “America bad, therefore anything opposing it must be good”. Yes, America bad indeed. But that doesn’t automatically Pol Pot, Kim Young Un, and Stalin are good.
Also, don’t be surprised if this comment is downvoted to oblivion after someone links it on hexbear or lemmygrad. It’s quite telling that comments like this are usually attacked based on syntax rather than substance, while refusing to actually explain what happened at Tianmen Square or during the Holodomor, without citing russian or Chinese propaganda.
Also, the name is a reference to communist countries sending tanks against civilians, RE: Hungary 1956, Prague 1968, and Tianmen Square 1989
Well the ‘America bad for the world’ is arguably not wrong.
True. The problem is their thought process is “therefore every country that’s adversarial to the US is good” including Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
New here, what’s a tankie?
Communist apologists. Nicknamed “tankies” because many would deny/defend things like the Tiananmen Square Massacre, the Hungarian revolt of 1956, Czechoslovakian revolt of 1968, etc… Instances where authorities rolled tanks into town to deal with revolts, which caused images like this:
For a long time, communism’s first response to revolution seemed to be “send in the tanks to deal with it”, thus the nickname “tankies” for people who defended the practice. Lemmy has a lot of communist undertones. It sort of goes hand-in-hand with the “anyone can spin up their own instance and be their own admin” philosophy. The .ml instances are meant to stand for “Maoist/Leninist” so you’ll see a lot of tankies from those .ml instances… But some of the most prominent Lemmy devs use .ml as their home instance, so many instances are hesitant to defederate from them entirely.
It also means there are lots of disagreements about what “real” communism is. Discussions which would get buried on right-leaning (compared to communism) platforms like Meta or Reddit are up front and center on Lemmy. So you’ll see the word thrown around a lot here, especially compared to anywhere else. Because the only thing that causes more arguments than “left vs right” is “moderate left vs far left”.
Most of the leftists and communists at least recognize the evils that communism has enabled in the past. But you’ll inevitably get tankies with the “akshually it wasn’t communism’s fault, it was the individuals” every time anything slightly anti-communist gets brought up.
Anyone with .ml after the @ in their name.
But seriously, Russia, China and North Korea’s apologists.
