On our own instance no less lmao
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Before joining Lemmy: “It really doesn’t matter what instance you join, you’ll be able to see content from all over.”
After joining Lemmy: “So you’ve enlisted in .world, eh? Welcome to the fight, soldier!”
Well, my 1st matrix account was on the kiwifarms’ server. Nope, I didn’t know tf kiwifarms was at the time, I just liked the name
What was it?
A 4ch-like board with a rather intolerant user base
They’re not nice people.
.ml vs .world fights are always hilarious. And for that reason, they should stay federated.
I’m on lemmy.ml and most of the communities I interact with are on lemmy.world. Most people are normal about it.
I started on .ml and had the same experience.
The only reason I quit is because the 0.19 update finally made TOTP not suck ass, I decided to activate it on my account, I had a skill issue with my digital keyring that caused me to lose my secret, and my session cookie in my Lemmy app eventually expired. Didn’t sign up with an email either so no account recovery was in the cards.
Generally, I don’t think most people bother to read the instance suffixes on usernames at all unless the comment is somehow inflammatory. I sure don’t.
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If they ever defederated, it would be incredibly disruptive since certain communities exist mostly on one or the other.
I’ve seen more complaining about ml than the actual things they’re complaining about. It’s pointless infighting among an otherwise like minded community. Even hexbear doesn’t deserve it.
Calm down. Have a hot chocolate and enjoy the season and masturbate thinking about linux to distract from societal collapse like the rest of us.
I’ve been banned from the entire .ml instnce and all its communities for daring to talk about the uyghur genocide.
Yes, we need to defederate now.
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Oh great, now we have genocide-deniers here.
That right here is why we should defederate.
Also curious how all the comments replying to me are less than one day old 🤔🤔
Could it be an astroturfing campaign by lemmy.ml users? 🤔🤔🤔
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Whataboutism and moving the goalpoast to distract from yourself. Typical.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
Go Astroturf somewhere else.
And just to piss you both off:
Fuck the CCP for their human rights abuses and systematic eradication of the Uyghur population’s culture.
Fuck Netanyahu for doing the same thing to the Palestinians whilst also bombing hospitals, raping women, and slaughtering children.
Fuck Russia for violating Ukraine’s sovereignty and breaking the security guarantee they signed.
And finally, fuck the US for being a hypocrite demanding decolonisation whilst also building up a global military presence and electing the orange turd twice!
…and fuck Europe for drowning refugees in the Mediterranean on purpose while buying Russian shit with blood money, crossing their fingers behind their backs when pledging support.
Edit: Am no tacky tanky but felt the list was missing my region (which I still prefer over any other place in the world… my little bubble of relative safety, social systems and cool weather)… it still sucks we have fascists and Russian shills in our governments.
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I think it sucks ass (in a bad way) that mods can remove comments in a way that makes it way too difficult for me to see those comments. Like in this case I would very much like some context to this discussion.
Should lemmy instead default to hiding them, and then crazy bastards like me can select to view them?
Weird, I can see the comment just fine. It just has a trash can next to it. Using the Sync for Lemmy app.
Oh, I guess it’s a client-side issue? Good to know.
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Is only genocide if ICC OK…
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Freshly created account, less than a day old.
Totally couldn’t be an astroturfing acoount, could it??
But to answer you question:
If they are allowed their own instance with genocide, why shouldn’t we be allowed one without genocide?
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Not wanting uyghurs to be genocided because of their religion = cringy bullcrap?
Really?
Just block and move on instead of trying to sway oppinions with fake-accounts.
Or better yet: you can support defederation. Then you won’t see any of our anti-genocide posts ever again!
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I’ve been banned from a number of ml instances for saying that communism isn’t that great actually
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These instances wars really prove that people attack other people because of any difference they can find.
Sad!
Ah yes, but you do not fear .ml, you only bring it up all the time and demand it be blocked for everyone on .world because…? You can just block it yourself, putting it in spongebob case doesn’t make that point invalid.
Same single .world user making all these posts.
So? It’s the same .ml users complaining.
Duly noted. Blocking this one along with the other serial whiners.
Nice Ad Hominem you got there.
Doesn’t change a thing though.
these memes are always so tortured, the reason I comment in these threads is because it’s funny content and routinely the actual reasons people are mad at .ml is getting banned/censored for being bigoted
the actual reasons people are mad at .ml is getting banned/censored for being bigoted
Where’s my bigotry? As of yesterday I was banned from a ton of .ml communities for “Troll” despite not having posted a single comment or post anywhere in .ml for a long time now.
In fact lots of people are banned for “Troll” or other “catch-all” rules for the audacity of bringing up things like the Uyghur genocide that China is doing or that Russia attacked a country unprovoked and wholly unjustified or even the fact that China is, in fact, Authoritarian
ETA, oh and here I was banned from technology for R1 “Bigotry”, wheres the bigotry in bringing up China being authoritarian?
I got banned from a few .ml communities because they started circlejerking about how great the taliban is and I dared to point out that they’re shitty and evil xD
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Well they’re 0.01% less bad than ISIS, so that clearly means we have to “critically support” (unconditionally fellate) the taliban
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I like being able to see news not dictated by Western media which somehow all turn out to be controlled by Israel.
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Sorry for being late to the party, but did you know that you can just block them? Hope this helps!
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
“Please block me so I can continue posting slop unopposed”
Because people change their minds on the Internet
I mean… it helps. I’ve seen less tankies after blocking .ml subs, but they’re still there
It’s much more fun to remove their ability to troll entirely, though. It makes them squirm.
Wasn’t there a post earlier about this exact thing lol. Can you lot make a community for whinging about something you have control over? That would be great for all.
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You mad bro?
How many feud posts does this make this week? 2? 3? Maybe you should post one more this weekend, as a treat for yourself and all your hard work.
That said, defederate away. People should choose their own path through life. Who the hell would want to tell other people how to use lemmy or how to run their own instance? Well, except you for some weird reason…
Lol, I make my “feud” posts on my home instance in my home instance communities. You’d have a point if I went to your home instance and started posting there.
You’re the ones acting entitled if anything trying to tell people what posts they should or shouldn’t make on their own home instance LMAO
If my posts were not at least moderately welcome by my community it would be, at best, ignored or more likely downvoted to hell
Wait I get it now, you guys are Lemmy imperialists!
Honestly, it’s kinda sad how much people care about what instances other people are on. Just because someone is on a certain instance that has some people who may have bad opinions and do certain things that aren’t right doesn’t mean everyone on that instance is to blame.
Secondly, you obviously don’t hate the instance that much considering how much content you re-upload from there, or are you just “getting your own back” because you think people on that instance shouldn’t be able to upload their content?
Thirdly, the fediverse was designed to have multiple instances with multiple communities, so trying to get other instances you specifically don’t like de-federated kinda goes against the point.
And finally, you dislike .ml and their devs that much that you use a different instance on the platform they made. So going back to point 2, you obviously don’t hate them that much because you use the platform they made and also re-upload content from that instance.
Why can’t people just enjoy the content Lemmy has to offer instead of moaning about the few people that may have unsavoury opinions or views? The world is full of people with unsavoury opinions and views, do you go out and look past all the good people or do you stress and care that much about the people who aren’t so good?
(Also, idc if I get downvoted, it’s just a number on the internet. I’m simply here to enjoy content and bring content to the platform, that’s all. I don’t personally think all this moaning is worth it, but hey, here I am.)
First, you didn’t pay attention to the meme at all, because if you had you would realize that I said .ml tankies specifically (or you did and then it’s kinda funny how you immediately thought I was talking about all .ml users)
Second, .ml is actively hurting Lemmy in the Fediverse now
Third, it’s mostly about the tankie “culture” (read pro-China, pro-Russia and even pro-NK misinformation and propaganda) that the devs, admins and mods encourage and enforce. You can’t even post anything negative, no matter how backed by facts or deserving it is, about China or Russia without getting some sort of ban. China IS an authoritarian dictatorship masquerading as fake communism.
Fourth, .ml admins and mods doesn’t want Lemmy to grow even at a healthy pace, if it’s not growing in the direction they want (e.g. a tankie echo chamber).
Fifth, I have no other major issues or concern with any other instance that hasn’t been already addressed (eg hexbear, lemmygrad)
Like a politician you avoided my main point about you re-uploading every post you see on .ml and the fact that you are using the platform that the admins of .ml (also the lemmy devs) created.
re-uploading is ok it’s part of social media but specifically targeting certain people is just sad it’s like you hate what they do on .ml but you’ll re upload their content.
And if you hate their ideas and views then why use their platform?
So sorry I didn’t address every single thing on your wall of text, here:
Like a politician you avoided my main point about you re-uploading every post you see on .ml
Cross-posting, using a built-in Lemmy feature I might add (not exactly hiding it lmao) to non-.ml communities as part of an ongoing effort to grow non-.ml communities. I don’t target anyone specific like you seem to say.
the fact that you are using the platform that the admins of .ml (also the lemmy devs) created.
And if you hate their ideas and views then why use their platform?
I’m a wholehearted believer in the idea of separating the art from the artist where its use and/or viewing does not financially support the artist with views I disagree with. In addition, I don’t have control over the underlying software in use on any given instance AND it’s the Fediverse, even if I was on say a piefed instance, the .ml instance and content would still be federated. Because ya know, the Fediverse.
And also, so you admit the admins and mods are Tankies then?
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Nope, try again or check with your client dev
Edit: also, now who’s the politician? Choosing to focus on an entirely irrelevant point instead of addressing the actual problems lmao
So you’re just but hurt your unsourced propaganda gets banned?
How fucking fragile is your world view?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China
The PRC officially terms itself as a democracy, using terms such as “socialist consultative democracy”, and “whole-process people’s democracy”. However, the country is commonly described as an authoritarian one-party state and a dictatorship, with among the heaviest restrictions worldwide in many areas, most notably against freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, free formation of social organizations, freedom of religion and free access to the Internet. China has consistently been ranked amongst the lowest as an “authoritarian regime” by the Economist Intelligence Unit’s Democracy Index, ranking at 148th out of 167 countries in 2023. Other sources suggest that terming China as “authoritarian” does not sufficiently account for the multiple consultation mechanisms that exist in Chinese government.
Or in other words, says one thing, but does another
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Katherine Maher has since moved on to more prestigious positions of US imperialism:
She subsequently joined the Atlantic Council and the US Department of State’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board.
Wikipedia is not a source , and your ‘source’ does not support your argument. It states some claim it’s not a democracy, mainly it’s military enemies who themselves claim to be a democracy, but less than 10% of the populace gets any power.
Can you freely criticize the government in China? Is the press in China free and independent? Do the Chinese people have free and open access to the Internet? Are you allowed to protest the government in China?
No, no, no and no. Sounds like it fits the definition of an authoritarian government, despite what said government “officially” says they are.
Lot of words typed for a person with nothing to say
Especially considering there are like twelve people on every instance combined
Verifiably false,
By raw user count, lemmy.world and even Lemmynsfw.com are individually bigger than .ml (no idea what’s up with that alien.top)
And by MAUs, .ml just barely makes the top 5
When I said every instance, I was including .ml.
But also I was being hyperbolic - you don’t have to prove that there are more than twelve Lemmy accounts
I think alien.top is a proxy for reddit so those users are likely bot users that go in place of Reddit users
What would ya’ll do without each other though?
Well, federation temporarily broke between .world and .ml for a bit a couple months ago and it was actually pretty nice. It was a turning point for me I think, up till that point the .ml issue was somewhat passive. Then they were just gone for a few days and it was kinda nice lmao
Have time for less controversial posts? Maybe a bit more positive things?
Man all i did was just chose an instance…
Yeah unfortunately it is one of the flagship instances and also is run by a transphobe and a guy who thinks Stalin did nothing wrong who will ban you for any opinion slightly deviating from the hivemind he’s created. Really sucks, because a lot of people don’t know this until they already made their acct and by the time they learn about it the sunk cost fallacy takes over because they “don’t want to lose their comments” by moving to a more neutral instance.
It’s by design of course, either the new conscripts relent and join their ranks or just go along to get along, or they don’t and they get banned while reinforcing .ml’s victim complex they so desperately cling to.
Any instance I can use next with S or A tier federation network and thats similar to .ml bit minus the bs? I liked this one cus it seems they were into Foss and stuff like that
Programming.dev might be worth a look for FOSS. Also db0 has been very good to me since I left .ml when db0 started up.
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Good thing .ml doesn’t deny any genocide, right? I mean, Muslims are terrorists and Ukrainians are nazis so erasing their culture or stealing their children is actually good :D
/s
Also tankies aren’t communists bc russia and China aren’t communist and you want every communist who disagrees with you dead
The Netherlands isn’t a “fascist” country. Wilders’ PVV party is in government with three other parties, none of which are fascist. Before talks could begin they demanded strong protections for the constitution, which the PVV agreed to. They also agreed that the party leaders should not be in the cabinet, which is why Wilders does not hold a position in the cabinet, he’s still effectively a “house member” to use a US parallel. It’s why the current prime minister (Schoof) is a fairly apolitical bureaucrat and a former member of the PvdA, the Dutch Labour party.
One of the parties in government, NSC, is particularly twitchy about anything remotely fascist or unconstitutional. The initial PVV plan to use emergency powers to stop immigration was shot down by the NSC, and is now off the table. The PVV had to leave most if not all of their anti-Islam policies at the door. They are still fervently anti-immigration, but they’re not working on deportations or anything.
The PVV in government is basically neutered to just a very right-wing party. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a good government and I foresee it falling fairly soon, but they’re not fascist and the Netherlands isn’t a fascist country. Claiming it is just demonstrates ignorance of the Dutch political situation.
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Another example about genocide denying
https://lemmings.world/comment/12925987
Oops sorry this was you today. Go back to lm
All I see is a lemmy.world user being against a genocide, and a lemmings.world denying it.
They’re two different instances, and if anything it proves that lemmy.world isn’t totally like that
Defederating is censorship. Use it against innocents and you’re no better than them.
All I see is a lemmy.world user being against a genocide, and a lemmings.world denying it.
They’re two different instances, and if anything it proves that lemmy.world isn’t totally like that
That’s the point. The lemmings user complains about denialism while doing it within the same hour.
Defederating is NOT censorship. Giving a larger platform to genocidal and authoritarian instances is bad for everybody. A big selling point of the decentralized nature of Lemmy is to build bridges with most, but also to avoid the most toxic groups. I have ml and hexbear blocked. Until I learned how to do that I was close to leave Lemmy due to the toxicity.
…that’s not fascism and not genocide denialism. Comments like yours are exactly the reason why the words “fascist”, “genocide” and many others don’t mean anything anymore, instead being used as generic terms to insult one’s ideological opponents with.
Low moderation doesn’t mean they’re into that. You can find opposite opinions on the instance, which indicates to me that it is just not well moderated and pretty « free »
But after all I don’t really know about the debate, I just learned about that and saw your comment
